Hi. okay, so what do you suggest i should search for, did try a couple of different word comibnations, thought i had found some thing lcose to help me out with the calculations, but was for access, and a book, another was for vb 6. got any suggestion,so i could start searching and hopefully find an example, that would give me some cluse on how to fix my program. get back to me soon if possible. cheers Marvin. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind