Hi. thanks for everyone's help. redid the example, and it is working fine now, used the origional variables from the example. just to get it working, and now, will change them to the variable names, that rick suggested. now, will do that, and it works fine. now, will go and redo the finance project. and did take ken's point, built it function by function, compiled, each time, and no problems. and did get some problems, but fixed them, like when and with me and saying no end with. well, at the bottom of the click event, and if there was no end if or end try, put it in. thanks for your help. and will be asking questions about problems with my other projects, one at a time. yep, thanks for the help and advice. cheers Marvin. __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind