It really depends, but, I often enough let a page resubmit to itself, and then change the output, or else, suppose the more common practice is to let each page submit to another one that then processes it's form submission etc. - sort of step by step process. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' ----- Original Message ----- From: Bryan Schulz To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 7:42 AM Subject: [program-l] Re: php question hi, ok, i guess i meant to ask is the more common style to combine php and html? the samples i learned from use the form action method to call the separate php file. thanks. Bryan Schulz ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacob Kruger To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 12:27 AM Subject: [program-l] Re: php question Both the code samples I offered did in fact do that - call all records, and just loop through them echo'ing multiple select/option elements/items per record. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' ----- Original Message ----- From: Bryan Schulz To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 4:28 AM Subject: [program-l] php question hi, i was thinking about my list of teams and the loop to place a pair of two teams in each select list. wouldn't it be less code to load all 32 teams into $team variables and fill the form values instead of loading two teams then changing the where condition to do the same from the next record? thanks. Bryan Schulz