Well, there's always Linux, Emacs, and Emacspeak, if you can live with the
dirty accessibility that a GUI provides, or the command-line jail.
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You are lucky... I never got notepad++ autocomplete to work. VSCode is great
except for the JAWS 2019 virtual buffer crashes when vscode starts, and NVDA
rambles on like a chatterbox in an infinite loop on drugs when using
autocomplete. Vscode also has an annoying habit of asking me if I use a
screen reader every time it starts. VS2017 would work fine, but it seems
overkill for a bootstrap learning environment. Besides, you can't use a
bootstrap CDN and get autocomplete. I could use Eclipse, but you can't mix
static html and php projects together in the same website, and I still have
to download bootstrap to get autocomplete. Edsharp seems 2-3 years out of
date. Any ideas on a light-weight editor that can give autocomplete with
bootstrap and html?
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From: program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2018 4:39 PM
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-l] Very good HTML/Markdown editors, besides Emacs
Hi all. As an intern at the state rehabilitation agency for the blind, I have
begun improving the structure and content of our provided courses, on Moodle.
I have, as of now, found that Emacs works best for me in editing HTML mainly.
Of course, it’s a great system all-around, besides the fact that the
Emacspeak port on Windows is out-of-date and takes a while to update, and
only officially supports the Voxin synthesizer, which will probably die off
once Linux users go all in on ARM. However, Emacs seems to be the only editor
which not only highlights syntax and other such simple, visual things, but
gives warnings and errors even while editing the code, like:
Missing <li>
Or the more annoying one of:
<aside> not recognized.
Or the most helpful:
Missing <dl>
When I’m deep into a definition list.
Of course, it also lets me validate the HTML, and I just skip the error that
<aside> isn’t recognized and all that, must be an old version of tidy that
they’re using.
So, is there anything that allows such productivity on windows? I’ve tried
Notepad++, and slightly like their auto-complete thing, but when it’s just
two characters, like <h2>, it’s not all that useful. I’ve tried VSCode, but
it does even less than Notepad++. So, any ideas?
I have also tried using Linux, Fedora to be exact, but Voxin, in true open
source fashion, doesn’t support the latest version of Fedora, which I think
may be the most accessible operating system Linux has to offer in the
mainstream. Sure, there’s coconut Linux, but I haven’t tried that, and
knowing Voxin, it won’t work there either. I’ve tried the eSpeak server, but
because the creator of Emacspeak doesn’t use it, it rarely gets maintained,
and all I get is “patches welcome.” The joys of free software.
Another reason why we can’t switch to Linux is that there is no accessible
typing program that our students, adult education, could use well. Yes, I’ve
tried TuxType, couldn’t get it to speak. Gnu-typist, but couldn’t get it to
work well for a beginner user who doesn’t know anything about the computer,
let alone how to get Fenrir or Orca to read the screen in their awful robotic
voices that I doubt any beginner would understand. Also, BrailleBlaster
always crashed, so no embossing or translating print to Braille either, as
great as BrailleBlaster is on Windows and Mac.
And no, we don’t have money to buy a bunch of Macs either.
So, what I do now is just bring my Mac with me to the assistive technology
department and work there, which is why I’m asking here if there are any
better ways of getting this done besides Emacs+Emacspeak. Both projects,
Emacs and Emacspeak, are great, on Mac and Linux. On Windows, however, I feel
that I’m missing some important thing which has made it such a great
programming environment for most blind programmers, it would seem.** To leave
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