Hi,
For GUI design, I follow the design from NV Access (NV Access hired a sighted
developer several years ago, and this developer has worked tirelessly on GUI
redesign). Even then, I follow the below steps:
1. After the program backend is verified, I sit down and sketch out a "tactile"
representation of graphical elements, including control placement and labels.
Typically, what I mean by tactile design is not using braille papers or tapes
to measure distances, but rather tracing GUI layout on a desk with my fingers,
partly because I used to have low vision when I was a child.
2. I then use a combination of mouse, touchscreens, and screen review to verify
GUI layout. I use a combination of mouse and screen review since I'm interested
in removing overlap (I frequently rely on object location to understand where
things are). If I really need to examine layout (specifically, labels), I use
touch devices (this is one of the reasons for purchasing touchscreen laptops in
recent years).
3. Sometimes I ask for feedback from users to make sure GUI is working and
looks okay. The biggest reason is to avoid overlaps where a control does not
cut labels of other controls. This is more so when designing settings
interfaces.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Joseph
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Hello!
Happy new year to you all! I wish you a successfull year, Strong health, year
full of joy and happyness and everything best in life.
All of your inputs are very well received and you gave me some good peaces of
advice, which I will definitely use. I have some questions from those inputs:
Dzhovani, you mentioned that you do machine learning and work related to it's
deployment. Could you please specify in which domains are you mostly in? You
know, it is in different places now, face recognition, natural language
processing, speech recognition, fintech, chatbots and etc. Also, what kind of
libraries do you use? Do you have a formal degree in Computer science, maths or
disciplines alike?
Joel, Thanks so much for your inputs. I of course search for those listings,
For example I have tried web development, jango and flask are fairly
straightforward, well organized and powerfull libs in that area, however
requirement of design makes it scary for blind users, because most of those
which I was able to find require some sort of design or a full stack dev. If
you can't see how your creation looks, it can be difficult to get it right what
your client really wants and as a result properly and correctly address those
needs in development process. To be honest, I understand the fact that for
business it's easier to hire one person to do the job, instead of hiring 2 to
make the same thing and they don't want the plain HTML/javascript stuff anymore.
Tony, Thanks for advice, I really use your ad-on a lot while working in python
source code and it's been really really helpful to me. Cudos to you.
Joseph, Yup, I am aware of your contributions to NVDA and think it's awesome!
Using profiles is also a great productivity trick. I would have the same design
related questions to you. Specifically, how do you arrange elements visually on
screen? Or how do you check weather that creation looks good at the end of the
day? You know, desktop development is one of the paths you can take when it
comes to python. Of course, I don't mean gaming and stuff, where c/c++ with
engines like unity would have much better speed and performance advantage over
python. But you still can do other stuff with it, such as tools or other apps,
but they have to bee visually pleasing in order for users to use it.
Thanks for any inputs to all again,
Nick.
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I'm a python developer. The work that I'm doing and that recruiters
are offering most often are web services backend, machine learning,
and machine learning deployments. Also, python is used quite
extensively in devops for managing builds and deployments.
HTH,
Dzhovani
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guys doing?
I am planning to make a switch to python development, so I am trying
to understand what kind of jobs do blind people do as python
developers and how they go about doing it, their suggestions, etc.
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Nick.
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