Hi Dante,
Thank you very much for those documents. I will look at them soon and let you
know what I find.
Thanks again,
Joe
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Hey Joe,
I'm not completely sure these will solve your problems since I've not really
worked a great deal with Dataset schemas... and I'm not 100% sure these will
help you browse the datasets, but these are the docs that my colleague sent me.
Can you take a look at these and tell me if these will solve the problem you're
trying to solve? If the won't, please help me understand a bit more about the
scenario. I'm sincerely hoping that we have *A* solution that you'll be able to
use (either in VS2015 or VS2017), but I'm not absolutely confident in that
assertion quite yet.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:32 PM
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Subject: [program-l] Re: Dataset Schemas in VS2015
Thank you, Dante.
If VS2017 has a better way of configuring the structure of datasets, or if
there is a better way of working with in-memory copies of a database for
merging before an export, please let me know.
Thank you very much,
Joe
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Joe, I'll look into it. I can't make any promises since I have some idea of the
scale of accessibility related issues that VS2015 had, but I'll see if I can
figure out a solution for you. The biggest question I want to figure out is if
VS2017 just exposed an undiscoverable workflow which has been around since the
days of olde, or if they had to implement a new workflow.
Let me get back to you.
--Dante
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Subject: [program-l] Dataset Schemas in VS2015
Hi Dante and others,
Is there a nonvisual way in Visual Studio 2015 to modify the database schema
that drives how the tables and constraints set up a C# dataset? It was
originally constructed by someone else using the graphical representation of
the multiple tables and lines connecting fields, but this is not something that
seems accessible. I have also looked into modifying the XSD or other files in a
text editor, but there is no documentation that I can find to clarify what the
different tags mean, etc.
Upgrading to VS2017 is not currently an option, because my employer only
recently upgraded us all to VS2015.
Any help on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
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Subject: [program-l] Introduction/Return
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Hey folks,
I wanted to introduce myself to new folks and let folks know that I'm back. My
name is Dante and I'm one of the Program Managers at Microsoft on Visual
Studio, and my main responsibilities are around the infrastructure of Visual
Studio (e.g. The shell, editor, etc...) as well as our compatibility with
assistive technologies (e.g. Jaws, NVDA, etc...). I'm sorry that I've not been
around for quite a while... something happened with the listserv and I got
knocked off. But, I'm back and I'm happy to contribute where it makes sense.
Basically, my goal for being here is to pay attention to the issues that
visually impaired developers are having and when possible, bring that feedback
back to Microsoft. In return, if people are having issues, I'd like to help
folks be successful in whatever ways I can.
In full disclosure, I do not (currently) use a screen reader as I'm sighted,
but I've been working in this space for several years now. I'm far from an
expert and the biggest thing I want to gain is an understanding of the
challenges that folks deal with. More than anything, we have 'ideas' on the
best ways to make Visual Studio accessible and productive, but I prefer first
hand commentary. I'm always happy to learn that I'm wrong, because it's an
opportunity to make things better. If folks have feedback on any of the Visual
Studio products (including Visual Studio, VS Code, Azure DevOps, etc...), I'd
like to hear about them. And I'll do what I can to help... sometimes that help
takes a while, but I assure you that I read every message that comes my way and
take action wherever I can.
So, if anyone has any questions, feel free to contact me directly. Beyond that,
thanks for letting me lurk here and chime in where I can.
Respectfully,
Dante
Senior Program Manager
Microsoft
