Hello all: ...a matter of semantics again. In a typical application one would usually import the libraries require eg. import java.io.*; import utils.UGarbageMan; However I have seen code with in methods such as this utils.UGarbageMan gMan = new utils.UGarbageMan(); ...with out the actual import lines as above. Obviously there is a difference but what? Jim James M. Corbett GST Division (Micro Applications) Acting CS3 IT Specialist / Acting Team Leader (613) 941-1338 "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." Douglas Adams "I'm Jim Corbett and I approve this message"