I have a simple bitmap diagram and I want to move one rectangular section just a wee bit downwards. I "drag out the area to copy". Photodesk says "Reposition the selection or copy it to the clipboard." If I reposition it, bits of the original section remain visible. Is this a bug? So I copy it to the clipboard, and paint out the old section with its background colour. Now on clipboard, I "drag out the area to copy" (all of it); Photodesk says "Reposition the selection..."; I drag it to the new position in main window Crash! Crash like I've never seen this RiscPC do before: the TFT screen just goes black and "No signal" appears. Alt-Break does nothing, Ctrl-Break does nothing, finally switch off the power and reboot. All seems OK. Is unstable behaviour like this common with Photodesk? Repeated the whole exercise, and this time achieved desired result: just dragged the selected area (all) from clipboard to main window, no problem. Fix it (spacebar), save it (F3). But then I load the saved file into another bitmap editor (David Pilling's !Scan) and the area of my selection is blank! What am I failing to understand? This operation should be simple. Using Photodesk 3.10 on OS 4.39 with Viewfinder 1.78. -- Jim Nagel www.archivemag.co.uk Abbey Press 32 Norbins Rd (01458) 83 3603 Glastonbury BA6 9JG pocket 0797 415 3861 >> before emailing large files (>1Mb), please ask me for FTP details