Just to be clear, I DO HAVE the headers, I want to get RID of them, I don't want to print them. That info appears to be the other way around. But anyway, those two areas in that screenshot ("headers & footers") are blank anyway. I can't even set top & bottom margins to "0", .118 is the smallest. I don't think it has anything to do with margins, I think it's more of the 'header & footer thing', but from what I've seen when printing, what I'm talking about isn't your typical header & footer as printing dialogs describe. If that info is there in the box when printing a webpage for example, the URL is printed at the bottom, and maybe the top too. Go to print something in OE and you can see what I'm talking about. In this email for example, it would print this at the top: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Moore" <***********> To: <pcworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [PCWorks] Re: How you can print something from an email WITHOUT having to print that header at the top that has your name, email address, subject, date, etc.? ........Which I don't want, it's redundant. I think I remember seeing "shrink to fit" in PDF files. >Are you trying to be the last person on the planet to run >IE6? Maybe MS will give you some sort of award. >Sort of like Volvo awarding people who get 500,000 >miles out of their cars. ROTFLMAO. HA!! "Run it till the wheels fall off". ;-) -Clint Merry Christmas to all & God Bless, Clint Hamilton, Owner www.OrpheusComputing.com www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com www.OrpheusComputing.com/most_reliable_cheapest_webhosting.html www.OrpheusComputing.com/office/computer_accessories.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Moore" I looked for it too and couldn't find it. Here is another page with a work around for the bug. http://www.lancelhoff.com/missing-message-header-of-outlook-express-messages / . It looks like IE sets the printer options for OE. He's setting page margins is Internet explorer. I wasn't aware of that myself. I think the bug originated in IE7 though. Are you trying to be the last person on the planet to run IE6? Maybe MS will give you some sort of award. Sort of like Volvo awarding people who get 500,000 miles out of their cars. ;-) Seriously though, I think you are out of luck on this one. You might try playing with the margin settings in IE6 and see if it has any effect. Ben -----Original Message----- Hey Ben. IE6 & OE6 (default XP SP3) but I don't see any "Shrink to fit" option anywhere. -Clint ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Moore" Hi Clint, I can't remember what you are running. Still IE7 and OE 5.5? I found this in the MS knowledge base. Apparently not printing the header was a bug for a while if you chose "shrink to fit". If you haven't updated maybe it's still a bug. ;-) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931657/en-us?spid=8722 Ben -----Original Message----- I thought you may have been on to something there, but it does the exact same thing. -Clint ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Vandervoort" For HTML mail, use Word/Edit/Paste Special. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin <> wrote: > Yes and no......Notepad works fine of course for plain text. > But when I try WordPad for HTML format and images, it's all > screwed up and unreadable. It's like pasted in a tiny column > about 1" wide. So pasting of HTML emails won't work. > > I just tried to print to PDF, then cropped the top off, which > is "ok", but I can't get any margin at the top now. Even in > "Page setup" or "Print setup" area when printing FROM a PDF > doesn't have any margin options! > -Clint > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hugh Vandervoort" > > Have you tried pasting it into Notepad or something similar, > then printing it? > > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin > <> wrote: > >> Does anyone have any idea HOW you can print something from >> an >> email in OE WITHOUT having to print that ridiculous header >> at >> the top that has your name, email address, subject, date, >> etc.? >> Most of the time all I want to print is the email BODY, >> nothing >> else. Even when highlighting it, and choosing "Selection" >> (which is supposed to ONLY print out what's highlighted), >> all >> that other garbage still prints! >> >> Thanks, >> -Clint ========================= The list's FAQ's can be seen by sending an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with FAQ in the subject line. 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