I had some issues with Avast 5 blocking my wireless from accessing the internet through my router, hard wired would work fine just not the wireless. So I uninstalled it and thought I would try Microsoft Security Essentials. At 2:30am it began to update and by 7:45am it was still updating, never since 2000 have I seen any anti vir app take that long. So upon visiting the MS security site I discovered the update size is 54mb! Is this the norm for updates from MS for this tool? If multiple daily updates are the norm for it then it is only useful for broadband users. Otherwise it's back to troubleshooting Avast... Peter Kaulback ========================= The list's FAQ's can be seen by sending an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with FAQ in the subject line. To unsubscribe, subscribe, set Digest or Vacation to on or off, go to //www.freelists.org/list/pcworks . You can also send an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with Unsubscribe in the subject line. Your member list settings can be found at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi/l=pcworks . Once logged in, you have access to numerous other email options. The list archives are located at //www.freelists.org/archives/pcworks/ . All email posted to the list will be placed there in the event anyone needs to look for previous posts. -zxdjhu-