[PCWorks] Downloading XP SP3 (Was: Re: BSOD with error 0x000000D1 sometimes just 0x00000000)
- From: "Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin" <PCWorks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pcworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 23:45:59 -0500
Larry, again, your replies are not going to the list because
you are not removing the footer! If you do not see your post,
then you KNOW what the problem is and why.
Now this problem below is now irrelevant, isn't it? Since you
had to start all over again with a new HD?
As for SP3, no, it can be downloaded many places, including
from M$, all you do is search for: download SP3 XP .
Unfortunately, there are numerous versions! If you have never
used it before, then (also unfortunately) you're going to have
to do some research on which is which, because some of the SP3
versions had bad problems with getting BSOD's when the PC tried
to boot. AMD CPU's mostly had this issue, but I was one of a
few that also had it with a P4. This was years ago, so FAIK
newer hardware may not have this issue.
All I saw on the first page of results is the 316mb version:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/microsoft_windows_xp_service_pack_3.html
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=24
http://www.softwarepatch.com/includes/download.php?page=windows&slug=windows-xp-service-pack-3&id=46
http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Windows-XP-SP3-Download-90001.html
I have 2 versions saved, one is 316mb and the other is 315mb.
That last URL says it's b5512. You may find more info if you
put "final" with that search above.
Send your other post again about ERUNT.
-Clint
God Bless,
Clint Hamilton, Owner
www.OrpheusComputing.com
www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Browning"
I'm sending this again.
On Sep 4, 2013, at 5:27 AM, Larry Browning wrote:
> Well I guess it didn't work long. Bottom line is that it was
> caused by a hard disk (C) failure.
> It was odd as it would boot just fine but got to the point
> that if I tried to scan the C drive it would crash and go to
> blue screen.
> Next my friend installed a new drive and formatted then
> installed XP Pro up to SP 2 had to batch file SP3, Great I'm
> back in business except for installing required software.
> Well during that installation I downloaded various programs
> like Quicken, Quickbooks, MS office etc. During this process
> it become evident that when I click on My Computer it would
> take 3 to 4 minutes to populate. I could live with that as it
> always seemed slow to me. When I have to backup a file or
> restore a file and I get to the point of pulling the menu
> down to search for the flash drive it also takes several
> minutes to show up. This I do often and can't tolerate.
> I removed each program I installed one at a time hoping to
> recover but did not work. So that is when I restored a file I
> had from ERUNT and I obviously picked the wrong one and it
> went to BSOD and stays there. Could not got to Safe Mode or
> anything.
> Then I went to the Emergency number II instructions from the
> ERUNT documentation.
>
> I even had my ERUNT file backed up on a flash drive but with
> only the blue screen to work from did not know how to load
> the backup. I know nothing about Dos Commands.
>
> As a bottom line I think the batch up grade to SP3 might have
> been the problem and my understand is it come off the
> internet. I also understand that SP3 is no longer available
> using the MS site. So I will have the problem again after I
> get back up from reformatting and reinstalling XP sp2. Which
> is were I am now and have the problem of not being able to
> get on the internet. I try connecting and I need IE 8 but
> can't get that as can't get on the internet. Sounds like a
> loop.
>
> LarryB
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2013, at 5:01 AM, Clint-OrpheusComputing.com
> wrote:
>
>> Good to hear you got it working.
>>
>> "Went from 40 gig nearly full to 18 gig free." I can't
>> understand exactly what that means. How much free space was
>> on
>> it before? A HD has to be really nearly full in order to
>> create any problems. If you believe that your problem was
>> indeed caused by lack up space, then you should set your HD
>> to
>> warn you when there's only X amount left.
>>
>> Be sure to put ERUNT in your Startup folder, and the path
>> shown
>> in the properties of the shortcut should be something like
>> this
>> (one line):
>>
>> "C:\Program Files\ERUNT\AUTOBACK.EXE"
>> %SystemRoot%\ERDNT\AutoBackup\#Date# /noconfirmdelete
>> /noprogresswindow /days:5
>>
>> That will automatically silently create a backup each day at
>> boot, and save the most recent 5 backups in that example.
>> They
>> will be in C:\WINDOWS\ERDNT\AutoBackup . You many want to
>> save
>> manual backups there AND in a location on another HD.
>>
>> In the future: "(Right click on My Computer>Advanced
>> tab>Crash
>> & recovery)", that's correct except the last area is
>> "Startup
>> and Recovery > Settings", which I guess you realized. Under
>> "System Failure" make sure at least the 1st box is checked
>> (that's all you really want), and in the drop-down you have
>> 3
>> options, try each of them. "Small memory dump" stopped
>> working
>> on mine! So have mine now set to the 2nd one, "Kernel
>> memory
>> dump".
>>
>> You should be able to find the dump files by searching for:
>> *.dmp on your C: drive or partition.
>>
>> If space is an issue on your HD, some thing that come to
>> mind:
>> 1. Put downloads and backups on another HD
>> 2. Always have your browser set to automatically delete all
>> temp net files folders when the browser is closed
>> 3. Keep Temp folders empty (when not in use of course)
>> 4. There's all kinds of log files and .log files that can
>> be
>> periodically deleted
>>
>> Any disk cleanup programs are helpful, BUT, DO NOT let them
>> delete everything because they WILL tag things that you
>> need!
>> Just use those as a guide for info then you can check out
>> the
>> areas yourself and delete what you don't need.
>>
>> I used Kaspersky Internet Security for years, then I got FED
>> UP
>> with their BS. In order to keep getting updates, they FORCE
>> you to upgrade, which is always a DOWNgrade, to something
>> with
>> LESS features and MORE problems. I've been using Comodo
>> Internet Security and M$'s anti-malware for my main
>> real-time
>> scanning, and a bunch of others for manual scans.
>> -Clint
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Browning"
>>
>>
>> Well my computer is back working.
>> Basically it was caused by a bloated hard drive! (C)
>>
>> I felt a little embarrassed but the gentleman said not to
>> worry
>> as there was no indication at the 90% point as it usually
>> shows
>> up in the EV list. The EV list showed nothing at all about
>> the
>> disk becoming a problem. Which could also be why I could not
>> find a .dmp file. Probably had no room to dump it.
>>
>> Anyway even the cleanup was over my head as he did things
>> I've
>> never even seen before. Went from 40 gig nearly full to 18
>> gig
>> free.
>>
>> Now he left me with the registry to clean up and disk clean
>> plus defrag. Also suggested using Kaspersky for my internet
>> security. (I've found over the years that no one with
>> computer
>> skills can agree on what is best)
>>
>> I'm using ERUNT also plus their reg cleaner.
>>
>> That's it and I thank you for your help.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>> On Aug 24, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Larry Browning wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in way over my head on this one Clint.
>>>
>>> First the debug program isn't crashing, the computer is
>>> during the download.
>>>
>>> I got the programs downloaded as far as I can tell and had
>>> to
>>> install Net4 to get the debug to load everything.
>>> I did that. Next I downloaded the Symbols program that went
>>> ok. When I open the symbols program it says no SDK files
>>> found on this computer yet I can find them using Explore.
>>> (right click Start)
>>>
>>> The files I see when I open Debugger are foreign to me and
>>> I
>>> think there are four of them in the program. Don't know
>>> what
>>> to do with them except one which takes me to a DOS window.
>>>
>>> I then tried to find the dump files. Can't find them which
>>> is
>>> interesting. I tried the drwstn32.exe command and that
>>> showed
>>> me the path but no files. I checked to make sure it was set
>>> up to make a crash file and that was ok. (Right click on My
>>> Computer>Advanced tab>Crash & recovery) That is from memory
>>> as I am home now and the computer is at the shop.
>>>
>>> Anyway bottom line is I think I will take it to a
>>> professional and get it fixed.
>>>
>>> I'll let you know what he finds.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 24, 2013, at 12:56 AM, Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did you try and look up those 'ncacn' lines? They seem to
>>>> be
>>>> network/internet related. Check out each one and maybe
>>>> that
>>>> will lead you to something. This for example:
>>>> http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/84536-45-dcom-event-10009
>>>> has
>>>> the DCOM error event and mentions two of your ncacn lines
>>>> below.
>>>>
>>>> What are the details for the DCOM error? That should give
>>>> you
>>>> a program, file name, Service, something.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know why the debug program would be crashing. Any
>>>> errors generated for that? LoL.
>>>> -Clint
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Larry Browning"
>>>>
>>>> I'm still working on it, having trouble getting the
>>>> debugger
>>>> loaded as it keeps crashing. Maybe I'll succeed today.
>>>> Did check the EV once again and clicked on the DCOM error
>>>> went
>>>> to properties then to the MS web site. That said to check
>>>> one
>>>> of the registry keys to see if something was missing or
>>>> wrong.
>>>> I did that and found this.
>>>>
>>>> ncacn_ip_tcp
>>>> ncacn_spx
>>>> ncacn_nb_nb
>>>> ncacn_nb_ipx
>>>>
>>>> Makes no sense to me but think that the desk top is trying
>>>> to
>>>> communicate with my laptop that I brought in to continue
>>>> to
>>>> do
>>>> my normal work. It is basically connected by WiFi so don't
>>>> really think that would be the problem. It has to be a MS
>>>> XP
>>>> system problem.
>>>>
>>>> The MS site I went to was suggested by this window in EV.
>>>>
>>>> I probably should just update my software to Windows 8 but
>>>> can't really afford to with the upgrade also that follows
>>>> with
>>>> software apps. So much of my apps won't work with the new
>>>> Windows OS.
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 23, 2013, at 12:55 AM, Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh my I can't believe you fell for that. There are
>>>>> countless
>>>>> of these extortion websites on the net. There's also the
>>>>> countless programs people install that make the same
>>>>> false
>>>>> claims and won't remove the "malware" unless you pay.
>>>>> These
>>>>> sites and programs also do more damage than they can fix,
>>>>> IF,
>>>>> IF, they even fix anything at all. Just tell your credit
>>>>> card
>>>>> company you were scammed and they'll give a refund.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look at the details of the entries in the Event Viewer.
>>>>> Double-click them then look under "Description". That
>>>>> may
>>>>> actually give you a file name or program name.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may have to download something called "Symbols" to
>>>>> use
>>>>> with
>>>>> that dump viewer. It's huge, a few hundred mb. You tell
>>>>> the
>>>>> program one time where you've put them and from then on
>>>>> it
>>>>> remembers and all that's needed is to drag the .dmp file
>>>>> to
>>>>> the
>>>>> icon, and it will display all the info. You may or may
>>>>> not
>>>>> have to do some scrolling until you see something like
>>>>> "Probably caused by....[.....]".
>>>>>
>>>>> ERUNT's backups don't take up much space at all. I opt
>>>>> to
>>>>> only
>>>>> keep the past 5 days and in my case each backup is only
>>>>> about
>>>>> 80mb. On the 6th day, the oldest is automatically
>>>>> deleted,
>>>>> so
>>>>> at any time I have the 5 most recent backups. Then you
>>>>> can
>>>>> also do backups manually like right before you do
>>>>> something.
>>>>> -Clint
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Larry Browning"
>>>>>
>>>>> You are probably right as it might be a scam. That is how
>>>>> I
>>>>> ended up with ErrorEnd, you download, scan and it finds
>>>>> hundreds of errors and to fix them you send them $40.00!
>>>>> Didn't fix the problem and we are in dispute at the
>>>>> moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> The .dmp file program sounds complicated after reading
>>>>> the
>>>>> info
>>>>> you suggested but I'll give it a try. Appreciate the
>>>>> input.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the Event Viewer I was using the info at the precise
>>>>> time
>>>>> of
>>>>> each crash so it was probably relevant and I also clear
>>>>> the
>>>>> screen in the EV and then check it after the crash as
>>>>> well.
>>>>> Just don't know what to do with the type of errors it
>>>>> showed.
>>>>> DCOM and Service Manager ----.
>>>>>
>>>>> Understand about ERUNT and I do remember you talking
>>>>> about
>>>>> it.
>>>>> I also used it for several years but had another problem
>>>>> with
>>>>> disk space and dump many programs that I really did not
>>>>> need,
>>>>> (at the time).
>>>>> If I get out of this mess I'll use the program again. (:
>>>>>
>>>>> Note: Noticed your time tick and see that you are like
>>>>> me,
>>>>> never sleep. Not good, go to bed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 22, 2013, at 12:48 AM, Clint Hamilton-PCWorks
>>>>> Admin
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.0x000000d1.com/stop-0x000000d1.html
>>>>>> Looks like some kind of scam maybe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you tried searching for those error codes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can spend months trying countless "suggestions"
>>>>>> trying
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> solve BSOD's, but in the end that is usually a waste of
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> because they can be caused by thousands of different
>>>>>> things,
>>>>>> but they are usually not caused by malware. The most
>>>>>> logical
>>>>>> thing to do is install that Windows debug program and
>>>>>> analyze
>>>>>> the .dmp files generated by the BSOD's. If you're lucky
>>>>>> they'll mention the cause somewhere in the output (after
>>>>>> dragging the dmp file to the program).
>>>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/gg463009.aspx
>>>>>> More info here if needed:
>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315263
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Event Viewer is generally useless unless you've been
>>>>>> monitoring it for a while and are familiar with the
>>>>>> plethora
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> daily "errors". On ANY PC, it's going to be loaded with
>>>>>> errors
>>>>>> and warnings. Now if you can find an event that
>>>>>> corresponds
>>>>>> with the time of the crash, then it could be useful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For many years I've been talking about ERUNT, you should
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> installed it years ago. ;-)
>>>>>> http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/
>>>>>> Disable
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> XP Restore and use that. You can set it to
>>>>>> automatically
>>>>>> create a backup with each boot (or daily), and opt to
>>>>>> keep
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> many of the backups as you want. It's almost instant,
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> never know it happens. There's also a way of doing a
>>>>>> restore
>>>>>> from DOS if Windows won't start.
>>>>>> -Clint
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Larry Browning"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows XP SP3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Happens randomly so I have to back up files anytime I
>>>>>> change
>>>>>> something.
>>>>>> Event List shows DCOM error and Service Manager
>>>>>> something.
>>>>>> (don't remember)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have done the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scanned with CWShedder--nothing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scanned with SpyBot -- nothing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scanned with Ad-aware and by 25% found a few problems
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> fixed them.
>>>>>> since then can't get a full scan done with Ad-Aware as
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> BSOD
>>>>>> shows up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> backed up the registry and scanned with CCCleaner it
>>>>>> made
>>>>>> corrections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> scanned with ErrorEnd and it found several error
>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> did this in desperation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scanned with Mal-warebytes nothing found
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Device manger shows no problems as does System Info
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't know any thing else to try so my question is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will a new installed from the original disk destroy my
>>>>>> files?
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> have SP 2 so I would have to live through the updates.
>>>>>> ugh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Restore points are not an option as in my pursuit of
>>>>>> answers
>>>>>> was told to turn off Restore and apparently when I did
>>>>>> previous
>>>>>> restore points disappeared.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been doing this for about a month.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Larry
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