-=PCTechTalk=- Re: microsoft - windows crash
- From: ~OoO~ <SirTroth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 09:19:13 -0500
For me, its not an issue of not trusting what's being sent. Think about it...
out of all the people that use the Windows XP OS, which is a lot, the one's who
have it legitimately (read: non-pirated) probably most send the reports. The
opposition does not, for obvious (and probably false) fears. But, for the ones
tat do send the report, I'd say that there are A LOT of reports sent. There
are, in my opinion, too many for Microsoft to go through.
I know that don't actually sit there and go through the reports... its all
software-based, I'm sure. And, I would say that it probably just hangs onto the
info until a they have so many error reports of a particular application or
program. Who knows. I'm not MS. These are just my views. But, since I don't
know, I can't say how they handle these processes. If you know for sure how
they handle it, then great.
If the reports help, as you're reporting, then they should be sent. I just wish
MS would do a better job explaining or demonstrating the possible success or
failure of this feature.
::: Troth :::
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::: Original Message
::: Sent Fri, 13 Feb 2004 18:14:04 -0500 by David F Wooledge
| Troth and others,
| I disagree about sending the bug reports to Microsoft. It does indeed
| assist the program developers. Also if the program is not a Microsoft
| program, often Microsoft is able to contact the developers of the program
| and inform them the program is crashing and possible reasons and fixes.
| It does not purposefully collect identifying or personal information.
| There are options to read exactly what is sent prior to sending; If
| personal or identifying information is included that one does not want to
| send, the option is there not to send the report. People complain about
| Microsoft programs containing bugs and security flaws. With codes for
| these programs reaching into the millions of lines I think it would
| impossible to release totally bug free programs. Also Microsoft has no
| control over non-Microsoft programs that cause the OS to crash. Here is
| a method for people to help identify the problems and provide information
| for Microsoft and other companies to improve the products people complain
| about , yet continue to use. And yes there are alternatives to
| Microsoft DOS and Windows, Linux (many varieties) and other open source
| software, Solaris, IBM OS\2, OS\2 WARP, Apple, to name a handful. I do
| understand not wanting to take the time to check what is being sent and
| not wanting to take the time for the report to be sent. I am not saying
| everyone should always send the reports. I do know software companies
| that have been notified of problems identified through this process.
| Also I have had some applications that always crashed, that I would send
| reports about, stop crashing after updates were applied. I like to think
| that sending in the error reports helped fix these problems. Sometimes,
| after sending in a report, Microsoft provides a link with instructions to
| fix the bug. It might involve installing an update or scanning for and
| removing a virus, worm or trojan. Just my thoughts, not wanting to start
| a debate.
| Dave
| http://www.geocities.com/wooledge001_/
| http://www.mental-health-advocate.us
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: ~OoO~
| To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 11:49 PM
| Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: microsoft - windows crash
|
|
| When your system or app crashes, and you get one of those nice little
| popups
| asking whether or not you'd like to report it, don't bother. Its supposed
| to
| help MS in the development and bug swatting, but I personally think its a
| load
| of crud.
| Regarding the update... I wouldn't bother with it neither. Instead, go to
| the
| Windows Update site (START > ALL PROGRAMS > WINDOWS UPDATE) update
| whatever it
| is that's listed as needing updating. If that script engine is important,
| it'll
| generally be there.
|
| ::: Troth :::
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