The newsletters that I've read are saying that the other browsers are now being targeted as easily as IE, and they aren't necessarily as fast getting fixes out, because they didn't think they would be needing them. So this concerns me - At least with IE, you know you have holes in it!! I would want the bells and Whistles - I'm that kind of gal ! LOL My hard drive is a 200 gb. Cris ----- Original Message ----- From: T. Hunt To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:26 AM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: downloading Firefox is a nice browser but it is limited. The appeal of leanness is offset by the fact that it lacks a lot of features. Mouse gestures, pop-up blocking, the ability to limit graphics loading in webpages. All that can be added but that then makes the browser less lean and more like Opera, but not quite. I've watched discussions of Firefox lately and, while I agree that it's a good browser, there has been a great deal of talk of add-ons to make it more functional. With each add-on, my thoughts were usually that Opera already had that built in. So I would recommend Opera over Firefox, especially if you're going to start adding features. The thing that makes IE necessary to view certain webpages is ActiveX scripting. This is a feature (bug?) developed by MS to bring content to webpages. It is also capable of being used for pushing software (spyware, Trojans, crap, etc.) to your system without so much as a by-your-leave. I would no longer view ActiveX as an asset but more as a major liability when surfing. IE is also vulnerable to many exploits, not because it's popular but because it is poorly written and contains old code that has been patched and repatched repeatedly. It's an aging '48 Hudson with high mileage and major body rust, held together with wire and duct tape. Rather than trying to drive that at 70 mph on the interstate, better to get a new car. The other reason to abandon IE is that it is tightly integrated into Windows, a major mistake if there ever was one, but unavoidable given the circumstances of its birth. Since it was always integrated, it is difficult to separate without writing a whole new browser and why would MS do that when they have 90% of the browser market now? (Of course, that's now slipping, some say to as little as 80% but it's bound to slip more and more as IE's vulnerabilities are made known and not patched successfully.) You can do without IE but it's better to just leave it and only bring it up when you need to do Windows Updates. And you can do the updates without IE but it's easier with it. So use Firefox if you like but think seriously about Opera. A more complete package, to be sure, but the features are all focused on easier browsing and the interface is a bit less clunky, IMO. I don't like the bookmark editing process in Opera but maybe I'll figure that out soon. I don't know how 'new' your computer is but you should have room for Firefox and a whole slew of other stuff. Firefox is only 4.9MB as a download and 8.44MB installed. I haven't seen a 'new' system lately that had anything less than a 40GB harddrive. Tom ps-To download multiple items with IE, just open another window, and start the download. Or use the Back button. You wind up with a lot of little 'Download' windows open and it is a major source of clutter on the desktop. Also, IE doesn't start downloading the file until you give it a location, unlike Opera and Firefox, which start downloading the file immediately and do that in the background while you create a location of your choosing. And the download managers in Opera and Firefox also support resume. Cris wrote: > If I was going to change, I would go with the new Firefox. > I've heard it is the best yet!! > hmmm - and on my new computer, there is enough room to > have > both on it. > I understand that some web sites are set up to only be > viewed with IE. > > something interesting that I discovered the other day. > Some > web sites that I was having trouble viewing, my son can > view > under his screen name! so I need to compare our settings. > Cris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: T. Hunt > To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:47 AM > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: downloading > > > Use Opera. I know it can handle at least 15 downloads > from > different > websites at once. Time to dump IE, if you haven't > already. > Using IE is > like walking into a kickboxing with a 'Kick Me' sign on > your > back. > > Tom > > Cris wrote: > >>Does anyone know how we change the setting so that we can >>download more than 2 items at a time? I remember that >>there >>was a way to change this, but not how! My computer can >>handle more than 2 at a time. >>Thanks! >>Cris > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.5.4 - Release Date: 12/15/2004 To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk