In his original post, he said that he had already formatted/reinstalled in order to try and fix the problem. That means the restore points that may have been available from before the issue began are now gone. I don't see a restore doing anything to help at this point. Instead, I strongly suspect the manner in which Firefox was brought back to life. If Steve has saved a backup of his Firefox 'Profile' and then pointed the new install to use it instead of starting from scratch, that would be enough to bring any oddities right back into the new OS. This doesn't explain how the problem started or what caused it, but it likely explains how it persisted through a reinstall of the OS. Peace, Gman http://www.thevenusproject.com/index.php "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask" ----- Original Message ----- From: "EddieB" <fasteddieb216@xxxxxxxxx> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:25 AM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Strange Problems with FF, IE and Shutdown > Steve, > > Sometimes you have to run System Restore from safe mode for it to work. > I'm > wondering if you tried uninstalling FireFox and re-installing it? It > might > have just hiccupped from the update/upgrade. > > Ed --------------------------------------------------------------- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. To subscribe, unsubscribe or modify your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk OR To subscribe to the mailing list, send an email to pctechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject. To unsubscribe send email to pctechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject. To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ To contact only the PCTT Mod Squad, write to: pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To join our separate PCTableTalk off-topic group, send a blank email to: pctabletalk+subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------