LOL Pat! I had this problem with a new laptop recently! it took me 6 tries to get into safe mode because the system was so darned fast! try this... boot, just after the info on your video card displays, hit the pause/break key, then enter, then keep tapping the delete key or F2 or whatever to get to the boot menu. ~s ----- Original Message ----- From: "§Pat§" > Morning gang > I used to defrag in the safe mode.....but now when I go to > start......shut down...then restart......everything loads so DARN > fast that it bypasses the screen where I use to be able to push > F8 and then select the safe mode.......any suggestions here? > Or another way to get to the safe mode? > I really do need to defrag. To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/