Edmark used to make a program called 'Kids Desk' which provided a special kids desktop. You set up what programs they can use, they cannot shutdown or bypass the program without special keystrokes and password. I cannot find it on line today but it may still be available on some older software sections. Mike ~ It is a good day if I learned something new. Editor MikesWhatsNews see ~ http://www.mwn.ca <mikeswhatsnews-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=subscribe> See my Anti-Virus pages ~ http://virusinfo.hackfix.org A Technical Support Alliance Member http://groups.yahoo.com/group/techsupportalliance/ *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 19/10/2002 at 11:12 AM David J. Weaver wrote: If the kid is smart enough to disable software, maybe a good old fashion trick would work. Heck I used it in the labs where I go to college, so that no one would use my computer to visit "non-appropriate" sites. 1. Find your HOSTS file. You can usually do a Search to find it. It should be located in your C:\Windows or something like that. If you do a search you'll also see a LMHOST file. You don't want that one. Also write down the location of the HOSTS file (the directory path). 2. You'll see an example of how an entry is to look when you enter it. To block a site (let's use www.yahoo.com , just type in 127.0.0.1 www.yahoo.com.) Also I would for this example block yahoo.com in the same way. The Internet sees them as two different DNS entries and as such would allow access through the one if not blocked. You can do this to as many websites as you wish. 3. Get down to a command prompt. Navigate your way to the folder the hosts file is in and then type ATTRIB +H HOSTS. That will hide it for the average user if your View option in Windows doens't show hidden files. Go surfing. If he beats that let me know I can try and find another free trick. Dave -----Original Message----- From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tori Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 8:44 PM To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Off Topic- Safe websites? I'd also suggest that Grandma learn online. If you have a bit of time to help her get started, send her to http://www.newbieclub.com/ There are other places online that teach basics for her. Let's face it.... once you can do email, surf and play games, the rest is easy to pick up as you go along. A lot of senior citizen organizations teach computers to each other. Also, many high schools offer adult programs with a free or large discount to seniors. Tori To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/