Just got back yesterday from working one two infected computers. Computer 1 518 infected files 23 spywares. Computer 2 683 infected files 2 spywares. #1 didn't have any antivirus running and #2 had AVG but it hasn't updated since 9/23/03. The auto update just won't connect. So I showed them how to update it themselves. Pc -------list-services-below----------- Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.