Hi PcCowboy, Sunday, December 7, 2003, 9:16:44 AM, you wrote: P> The history of this motherboard is that it was my old board that I P> gave my son. It is a MSI nforce2 board not even a year old. It is P> the first board that he installed himself without my help. So I P> took the board out of the computer and found the problem right off. P> He left one of those plastic feet in place where there wasn't a P> hole in the board. It's worse when there's a metal standoff where there's no hole in the motherboard. --Scott. Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.