For your information. Replies to Dave please and not the group. Jack -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Euro results West Oxfordshire Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 07:43:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "" <dmarc-noreply-outsider@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "Davebarnby@xxxxxxx" for DMARC) To: johnarobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx You write John:/'Personally I do not think the incumbent government has done badly on the economy considering the mess they took over from Labour.'/
//The key to the /'economic turn round'/(in my view) was, and is, QE, with the insertion of £0.3+ trillion into the economy (just figures entered onto a computer), a huge gamble, which may win the Conservatives the next election (barring upset from us), but has left us with galloping inflation (few thinking people accept the inflation figures that the government puts out) and a growing housing bubble, and which, I estimate, has cost me £50K - 70K in lost value on my savings. So it's savers and pensioners who have effectively financed the turn round, not anything marvelous the Tories have done. True the last Labour government started QE, but they started it just before losing office, so it was not they that benefitted from it, but the Conservatives. Printing money is a favourite trick of governments in trouble to buy elections. To get a measure of the effect of these sorts of tricks over the years, - I _can't_now buy a mince pie with the money I got paid in the early 1950s as a newspaper boy - 40p for a 6 day week / 2 hour day for delivering newspapers in all weathers before I set off for school.
Damn all governments for their deceit and selfishness. dave // // //In a message dated 26/05/2014 11:30:47 GMT Daylight Time, johnarobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Hi Dave, looks like a seismic shift in politics across Europe, mirroring those referendum results a few years ago when voters in several countries expressed their dissatisfaction with the EU, results I recall dismissed by Brussels. Now you have your work cut out to prepare for a possible coalition next year. Means drafting up a comprehensive manifesto addressing all areas of government. Personally I do not think the incumbent government has done badly on the economy considering the mess they took over from Labour. Any would be Labour voters need to think carefully about the implications of another Labour government since these people always leave a legacy of economic problems after they have been in power. Of course UKIP have won MEP seats on the back of a backlash against the EU and unrestrained immigration (another Labour legacy), but in a general election people will vote for broader issues, in particular those that affect their pocket. Nonetheless you must be very pleased with the result. John *From:* Davebarnby@xxxxxxx <mailto:Davebarnby@xxxxxxx> *Sent:* Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:31 PM *To:* brl@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:brl@xxxxxxxxxx> ; last_bowlerhat@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:last_bowlerhat@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; clivejamestaylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:clivejamestaylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; erika@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:erika@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; jfraims@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jfraims@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; 1925687@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:1925687@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; jonathan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jonathan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; eleandra@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eleandra@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; stephennash48@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:stephennash48@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; lawrence.haar@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lawrence.haar@xxxxxxxxxxxx> *Cc:* mail@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mail@xxxxxxxxxx> ; jandeashwell@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jandeashwell@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ; jasonkentukip@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jasonkentukip@xxxxxxxxx> ; memsecwitney@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:memsecwitney@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; kr.clark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:kr.clark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; nikolai.tolstoy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:nikolai.tolstoy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> *Subject:* Euro results West Oxfordshire 1. Conservatives 11851 2. UKIP 7692 3. Labour 3925 4. Lib/dems 2245 5. Greens 3295 An Independence from Europe - 685 nearly 10% of UKIP's vote - it seems the voters mistook this party for UKIP in droves and maybe deprived us of several MEPs - UKIP must challenge Electoral Commission and demand that some of these votes be transferred (they emulated our name and used one of our emblems). But not bad for UKIP in a true blue establishment / Conservative area. Thanks to all who campaigned hard. dave