[patriots] Fwd: Fwd: RE: Fwd: UK Parliament comes to an effective end on 1st November 2014 (new EU rules)
- From: Jack Lewis <ukpatriot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Patriots <patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 10:23:43 +0100
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Subject: Fwd: RE: Fwd: UK Parliament comes to an effective end on 1st
November 2014 (new EU rules)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 09:44:23 +0100
From: ECG <ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ECG <ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Does Stan mean what José's MP SAYS is pointless rather than what José
says? That is precisly why I sent his comments to the group, we are all
represented by people who have no power nor the guts(?) to take it back
on our behalf. I refer again to the Vienna Convention for Treaties which
confirms that Heath's treachery means our membership is null and void,
which backs up the case that the TRUE laws of our land states the case
that those 'with the power' have worked hard to ignore.
José
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Message Received: May 26 2014, 12:28 AM
From: "ECG"
To: "ECG"
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Subject: Fwd: UK Parliament comes to an effective end on 1st
November 2014 (new EU rules)
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Subject: UK Parliament comes to an effective end on 1st November
2014 (new EU rules)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 23:50:48 +0100
From: Stan Parr <>
To: ECG
I don't understand any of this......and what Jose says is pointless,
because it will all be null and void after 1st November.
Why are they wittering on about "the trust has to be regained"?
That's rubbish and pointless! The game is over!
I assume Mark Harper and de Bois are Tories....I haven't checked and
it's not stated?
Stan.
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*From:* ECG <mailto:ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*To:* ECG <mailto:ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: RE: Fwd: RE: UK Parliament comes to an effective end
on 1st November 2014 (new EU rules)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 00:00:58 +0200 (CEST)
From: Jose OWare
Reply-To: Jose OWare
To: ECG
My MP Nick de Bois tells me, he thinks the PM knows he has a
trust issue although I wont attempt to review the list with you!
(Lisbon 2017 QMV)
Indeed he (Cameron) knows he has to win the trust again by the
election for EU sceptics* who want a referendum. Truthfully he
and the Conservatives are the best chance of this country
securing the long overdue referendum regardless of how people
vote on Thursday.
I have hesitated to reply because this is just a load of
'sphericals' and frightenly ignorant from someone I had hitherto
respected.
José.
* I am not and never have been 'sceptical' about the EU, I know
too much about it therefore I am a Euro-REALIST. I just wish
they would use the correct terminology.
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Message Received: May 25 2014, 02:14 PM
From: "ECG"
To: "ECG"
Cc:
Subject: Fwd: RE: UK Parliament comes to an effective end on
1st November 2014 (new EU rules)
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Subject: RE: UK Parliament comes to an effective end on 1st
November 2014 (new EU rules)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 11:56:48 +0000
From: john TIMBRELL <>
To: ECG
Guess What. I've already asked my MP Mark Harper. He replied
that we are the only party offering a referendum. Before we
do we will be negotiating with our partners??? to correct
matters affecting UK voters. YEAH RiGHT!
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Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 12:47:27 +0100
From: ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Fwd: FW: Fwd: UK Parliament comes to an effective
end on 1st November 2014 (new EU rules)
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Subject: FW: Fwd: UK Parliament comes to an effective end
on 1st November 2014 (new EU rules)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 12:40:38 +0100
From: Hadenwood <>
To: Desmond Swayne
CC: Tony McIntyre <>,
Desmond Swayne - MP --- This is too important to
ignore- may we have your considered comments please.
Obvious is that the PM / governing parties, should know all
about this and the suggestion that the UK is negotiating its
way to mild interaction with the EU and effective
independence and without stipulating any detail, is only
political propaganda.
We keep in mind that the Conservative party promised a
referendum in its last election campaign - but simply
'kicked the ball down the road'---
This is too important to ignore- may we have your
considered comments please. Thank you.
Regards,
Christopher H Caffin -- Milford-on-Sea.
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From: ECG [mailto:ecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 25 May 2014 12:15
To: ECG
Subject: Fwd: Fwd: UK Parliament comes to an effective end
on 1st November 2014 (new EU rules)
Dear all,
Please see below important information from Paul (thanks Paul).
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Subject: Fwd: UK Parliament comes to an effective end on
1st November 2014 (new EU rules)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 11:13:36 +0100
From: Paul Talbot-Jenkins <>
To: fame_97 <>
CC: ECG group Mail,list , ECG
Hi all,
This just came in, looks like it's a done deal before any
referendum.
With best wishes
Paul
www.force4justice.co.uk <http://www.force4justice.co.uk>
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>
>
> Does everyone now about this .... ? If not, we need to
publicise it asap.
>
> UK Parliament comes to an effective end on November
2014 (new EU rules)
> On the 1st November 2014 the right of Parliament to
legislate over us in 43 areas, the important ones, will be
removed and be made subject to approval. They call it QMV,
Qualified Majority Voting.
>
> Each member State will lose it right of Veto over these
areas, so Cameron’s idea of negotiation to recover any areas
goes out the window at the same time.
>
> The following areas of competence will switch from
requiring unanimous approval of all member states to
qualified majority voting only:
>
> Initiatives of the High Representative for Foreign
Affairs – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Administrative co-operation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Asylum – Nice: QMV; Lisbon: QMV
> Border controls – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Citizens’ initiative regulations – Nice: Unanimity;
Lisbon: QMV
> Civil protection – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Committee of the Regions – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Common defence policy – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Crime prevention incentives – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Criminal judicial co-operation – Nice: Unanimity;
Lisbon: QMV
> Criminal law – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Culture – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Diplomatic & Consular protection – Nice: Unanimity
Lisbon: QMV
> Economic & Social Committee – Nice: QMV Lisbon: QMV
> Emergency international aid – Nice: Unanimity Lisbon: QMV
> Energy – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> EU budget – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Eurojust – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> European Central Bank – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> European Court of Justice – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Europol – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Eurozone external representation – Nice: Unanimity;
Lisbon: QMV Foreign Affairs High Representative election
– Lisbon: QMV
> Freedom of movement for workers – Nice: Unanimity;
Lisbon: QMV
> Freedom to establish a business – Nice: Unanimity Lisbon QMV
> Freedom, security, justice, co-operation & evaluation –
Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Funding the Common Foreign & Security Policy – Nice:
Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> General economic interest services – Nice: Unanimity;
Lisbon: QMV
> Humanitarian aid – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Immigration – Nice: QMV; Lisbon: QMV
> Intellectual property – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Organisation of the Council of the EU – Nice: Unanimity;
Lisbon: QMV
> Police co-operation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> President of the European Council election – Lisbon: QMV
> Response to natural disasters & terrorism – Lisbon: QMV
> Rules concerning the Armaments Agency – Nice: Unanimity;
Lisbon: QMV
> Self-employment access rights – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon:
QMV
> Social Security Unanimity – Nice: QMV; Lisbon: QMV
> Space – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Sport – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Structural & Cohension Funds – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Tourism – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Transport – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
> Withdrawal of a member state – Lisbon: QMV
>
> A brief review of the Treaties confirms the Transitional
arrangements which allow, only on specific votes, for the
Nice Treaty Provisions to apply from 1st November 2014
until March 2017, hence I imagine PM David Cameron’s
determination to delay our referendum beyond that date,
tying Britain for ever within the non-democratic,
totalitarian and now clearly despotic EU.
>
> For your reference, if anyone interested in the Treaty
Articles behind this change, here is the legal bit.
http://grahnlaw.blogspot.co.uk/2009/07/eu-qualified-majority-voting-qmv.html
>
> Yours indeed for the cause,
>
> UKIP Cllr. Robert H. Brown
>
>
> NNW Cambs UKIP
>
> 12 Lancaster Road, Upwood, Ramsey, Cambs PE26 2PX.
> Tel: 01487 710898 Mob: 07932
230 609
>
>
>
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