Hi Susan
Thanks for those articles – didn’t realise there was such a big difference
between the front and the back.
I see what they are calling trotters, I would call hocks. I love them as well
and use smoked hocks to make my fav winter soup.
These are what I know as trotters. They are usually deboned and braised till
soft, possibly stuffed.
Cheers
Steve
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Sent: Friday, 3 June 2022 1:07 PM
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Subject: [oz-food] Re: Beef Rib Fingers/pig bits
Hi Steve,
Here are links to the ingredient list, and also a link to a video from a guy
that has quite a following in Singapore for simple home cooked dishes
(and who therefore gets product placements - as per youtube video):
http://www.spicenpans.com/braised-pork-leg/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.spicenpans.com/braised-pork-leg/__;!!Nd8K6TfUt9jcQpcU_mCx!oYIvAYK5nnVbTgXv7yEK7TPTNy7F_hfYkdBbmwR-9XjNX0thfnD-Q9Ny_l5_EMEQC8cyT2_X2bOq_53WPxUi3wOQReI$>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MSq6hvemfA<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MSq6hvemfA__;!!Nd8K6TfUt9jcQpcU_mCx!oYIvAYK5nnVbTgXv7yEK7TPTNy7F_hfYkdBbmwR-9XjNX0thfnD-Q9Ny_l5_EMEQC8cyT2_X2bOq_53WPxUiN7YfQNE$>
This is a braised dish that is all about textures of the gelatinous skin,
cartilage and fat of the trotter. No crispy parts at all.
Great with rice, rice porridge or noodles.
Okay, I found this article about front and hind trotters:
https://inf.news/en/food/281f9f51b41d5847ba8bd4a634df1e42.html<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/inf.news/en/food/281f9f51b41d5847ba8bd4a634df1e42.html__;!!Nd8K6TfUt9jcQpcU_mCx!oYIvAYK5nnVbTgXv7yEK7TPTNy7F_hfYkdBbmwR-9XjNX0thfnD-Q9Ny_l5_EMEQC8cyT2_X2bOq_53WPxUikeayhJQ$>
So now I know that I like the front trotters - which are less meaty!
Susan
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 at 15:22, Susan Yuen
<susan.yuen@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:susan.yuen@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Steve,
Trotters are lovely and a comfort food for me.
No expensive ingredients, just boiled in a good master sauce with
dark and light soy sauce, rock sugar, ginger and garlic, till they are soft and
gelatinous.
Some recipes add star anise and other spices. Others are a straightforward
soya sauce gravy.
I go look for a recipe for you.
It is possible to add properly cleaned pigs ears, intestines and other innards
to the sauce and boil till all is tender.
I tend to order the innards from a hawker stall instead of trying to clean them
at home.
They are usually eaten with rice sheets served in a broth called "Kway Chap")
The Kway is for "Kway Teow" for flat rice noodles and "Chap" is for the variety
of meats that are served with it.
FYI - front trotter and back trotters are quite different - one has more meat
and the other more bones
(I keep forgetting which!). I prefer the one with more bones and cartilage -
lovely to gnaw on.
We also add hard boiled eggs, tofu and taupok (deep fried tofu skin which has
sponge like qualities) in the sauce.
I have never tried to roast or fry them - but the Filipinos love crispy pata
(deed fried trotters).
Lorna has attempted crispy pata but it did not come out so well and it was not
worth the cleaning up after the deep fry!
You may also want to try the Korean version of pork trotters - just boiled till
tender,
then sliced thin to eat with kimchi and other sides wrapped in a lettuce leaf.
Susan
On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 at 18:14, Tilden, Steve ST
<Steve.Tilden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Steve.Tilden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Susan
I’ve always eaten much more (lean) lamb than beef, and can still get some
decent buys.
Bought a whole bunch of shanks on sale for $8/kg which I love in winter, odd
leg for $11.
My favourite is always the shoulder, but it’s rarely on special and sometimes
hard to get.
I still have some lamb ribs from a long while in the freezer back to do – too
fatty was the verdict last time. Though it was the
First time I cooked them so I hadn’t trimmed up.
I saw some pig trotters at $3.50 I didn’t get but may next time I’m back at
that food market. There were some big trotters there
So I’m thinking size does matter to make de-boning easier.
I have cooked these deboned and stuffed like 20 years ago, after eating them
at the now long gone Bilsons,
Cooked by no less than the Chef de Cuisine, one Manu Fieldel when he was still
on the pans prior to becoming a tv star.
I must say the 10 course degustation we had back in the day was amazing, and he
can certainly cook exceptionally.
I had seen a show with Marco Pierre Whites’ classic version and had thought I
might try it, till I saw this recipe took 3 days, and uses a tonne of expensive
ingredients.
Trotters and Tales: Pig's Trotters Pierre
Koffmann<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/trottersandtales.blogspot.com/2009/05/pigs-trotters-pierre-koffmann.html__;!!Nd8K6TfUt9jcQpcU_mCx!oYIvAYK5nnVbTgXv7yEK7TPTNy7F_hfYkdBbmwR-9XjNX0thfnD-Q9Ny_l5_EMEQC8cyT2_X2bOq_53WPxUiI8l1CkI$>
Hmmm.. wonder how much they’re charging for beef bones these days? Might have
to go to the doggie section and steal Rovers 😉
Pierre Koffmann's Stuffed Pig Trotters With Morels - Melbourne Food & Wine
Festival
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This recipe looks a lot more do-able, and who doesn’t need a couple of extra
litres of proper beef stock come demi-glace on standby in the freezer.
I see these still need sweetbreads which I liked but Jen wasn’t keen – I wonder
if I could hide these served under some demi-glace as a grazing trotter to head
type grazing thing?
Hmmm…think I might have saw some big floppy ears somewhere as well. Anyone ever
cooked these?
Good activity to waste a lazy day staying out of our early winter blast
perhaps! Ha ha….the cook would end up marinated as well me thinks.
Cheers
Steve
<snip>
Hey Steve - you are right about food costs escalating - the beef shins
(the "gold coin" shins are my preferred cut ) that I used to get for S$16/kilo
are now about $26. And these are for frozen meats. Chilled beef costs a lot
more here -
no beef here is ever US$2/lb (or about S$7 per kilo)!.
On the other hand, the rib fingers were about $20/kilo.
They did need some cleaning up as there was some silver skin that needed
removal, and some fat too. But the final result was very decent.
Just enough fat to ensure that the final result would not be stringy and dry.
Not as much of the gelatinous stuff found in (gold coin) beef shins so it has a
meatier mouth fee.
Would consider buying them again and experimenting with them in other recipes.
Susan
On Tue, 31 May 2022 at 23:28, <janhaltn@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:janhaltn@xxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
I will be 82 shortly and I have eaten beef ribs one time in my life. Hal
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You know, it’s kind of interesting, but I rarely eat beef ribs…
Over here, I’d say in the us it’s 99% pork ribs…mostly bbq’ed.
Your dish sounds interesting!!
I’ve never seen that particular cut for sale here before…
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On May 30, 2022, at 9:48 PM, Susan Yuen
<susan.yuen@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:susan.yuen@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone used Beef Rib Fingers - the meat found between the ribs - before?
I purchased some online and tried them in a simplified rendang curry
(from purchased spice paste - unfortunately it was just too salty)
as well as braised in red wine with lots of garlic, onions, peppers, tomatoes
and some mushrooms.
I found them very tasty, and cooked quickly enough -
for the braise, I browned them before simmering for about 20 minutes
before transferring to, and leaving in a thermal pot for about 3 hours.
Not fall apart but tender with a nice chew which I like.
Oh, I smeared some blue (stilton) on the beef and it was sublime.
Susan