is if this list is at the point where we need/want to split it into newbie and export sections. each side has pros among them, a faster turnaround for newbie questions [but only if some of the experts agree to answer questions on the newbie list] less signal to noise on the expert list, and perhaps calmer and quieter environments on both. however the major con to both is that it will require greater moderator involvement in either case. are there enough willing and qualified moderators available? -- -- Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE DBA shrekdba@xxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkes." -- The Goddess -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l