No, we haven't converted to spfile yet. Just using init.ora for testing. Thanks all for the replies. I think it was our misreading of the docs, thinking it allowed us to get rid of the listener.ora when that isn't the case (too bad). Oh well, back to the regularly scheduled PC/non-PC rants... Scott Shafer -----Original Message----- From: Mercadante, Thomas F [mailto:thomas.mercadante@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Are you saying that with the entry below in the init.ora file, you = database did not register with the listener after a db bounce? Did the spfile = still exists after th4e db bounce? If it did, then the init.ora changes were skipped - the db started using the spfile. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------