10g - you won't need a dba http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_database_id=FOR&p_id=611535.995 if O'Reilly ever puts out an "Oracle Annoyances" book, having ocssd running for non-ASM, non-clustered installations in a respawn mode without supplying the wooden stake to kill the unholy beast - well, it gets my vote. Yes, I commented out the line in the file /etc/inittab, but I do not care to reboot this server on which I barely have a decent connection thru vnc with no sysadmin at that site for another week. a reboot could mean an unscheduled trip to Minnesota, which might even be more inhospitable than Pittsburgh was last Sunday. Yes, someone was nice enough to post the following on the thread listed above: [root@mybox root]# /etc/init.d/init.cssd stop Shutting down CRS daemon. Shutting down EVM daemon. Shutting down CSS daemon. Shutdown request successfully issued. Is that too difficult to include in a note, or even in the 10.1.0.3 patchset? btw - Oracle has re-released the 10g R1 for lin32 as 10.1.0.3, just like they did for the 9i R2 as 9.2.0.4. grumble. Paul - back to bdbafh mode. -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l