Charles, I have found some interesting stuff when I turned on a level 4 trace on a DBMS_STATS collection session using AUTO_SAMPLE_SIZE. Unfortunately, I did not document what I saw, but I do remember that it performed multiple scans.... Not a Good Thing (tm). Regards, John Kanagaraj <>< DB Soft Inc Phone: 408-970-7002 (W) http://www.klove.com <http://www.klove.com/> - Positive, encouraging music 24x7 worldwide ** The opinions and facts contained in this message are entirely mine and do not reflect those of my employer or customers ** ________________________________ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schultz, Charles Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 10:52 AM To: oracle-l Subject: What are the gory details behind DBMS_STATS.AUTO_SAMPLE_SIZE? I am curious how the algorithms behind DBMS_STATS.AUTO_SAMPLE_SIZE actually pick a sample size (10.2.0.1). We have witnessed a case where the sample size for a particular column was reduced 91.6%, causing the number of distinct values to be inaccurate, further causing a query to choose an FTS rather than an index. As far as I can tell, the skew has not changed that much, if at all, and the overall volume has increased by ~1%. I am aware of workarounds (compute stats, lock stats, use an outline, etc), but like I said, I am really curious why the algorithm made such a drastic jump in the first place. I could not easily locate an appropriate white paper on metalinks, and I get too many hits on Google. Can anyone help satiate my burning desire to know? =) charles schultz oracle dba aits - adsd university of illinois