Jared, That might be a good idea to play around with but 2 DVD's of info is a bit much to download. I didn't see anyother method of getting the info but from a download. The second DVD info connects you to RedHat to get the RedHat AS 3 u2 which is not the current os. RedHat AS 3 u3 is available. 4 CDRoms. Ron >>> Jared Still <jkstill@xxxxxxxxx> 12/13/2004 1:23:49 PM >>> Oracle, VMWare and RedHat are going to bundle a complete VMWare/Linux/Oracle distribution to run directly from a PC. http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/vmware/index.html -- Jared Still Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l