Re: Universal database interface?
- From: Radu-Adrian Popescu <radu.popescu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Oracle-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:26:10 +0300
Mladen Gogala wrote:
> On 04/12/2005 08:11:41 PM, Jared Still wrote:
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>>Maybe the developers are happy, because performance is the DBA's problem,=
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>>right?
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I'm a developer, systems architect and small-time DBA (yes, we're small shop).
The "duhvelopers" thing is a bit extreme I think, but a good joke nevertheless.
Not all Java programmers are like that, but I do agree that apparently a large
part of them were born straight into a Java/EJB/ORM world, which would not be
entirely bad if only they had more than marginal interest in adjacent
technologies like the database and OS-related things such as networking, ipc,
memory, low[er]-level code and friends.
Them people live in a buzzworld (tm).
OK I guess what I'm saying is that while there's a large chunk of programmers
that - save Java and an array of tools to hold their hand - can't tell their
ass
from a hole in the ground using both hands and a flash light there is a
significant percentage of developers that do know their stuff and have
experience from assembly to Java and from ATL to XA. I'm one of them ;-)
So if you're developers are duvhelopers then you must be hanging out with the
wrong crowd!
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> Spoken like a true architect! I welcome the standards and "database
> independent applications". Those are the things that enable me to earn
> my salary. Here is the law of Mladen: application that starts as a
> database independent will have to become Oracle specific in order to
> achieve an acceptable level of performance. My favorite toys are
> Object-Relational Mappers (ORM), recently a genuine hit among Java
> duhveleopers. Allegedly, they'll transform a relational query into a
> Java object which will then be passed through BZZZTYIKL or some other
> abbreviation resembling Vogon poetry, which will do an indescribable
> magic and, in particular, generate an acceptable user interface. To
> attain sub-hour web response, I ended up writing a ton of PL/SQL
> procedures implementing those "queries". When application was finished,
> it was database independent, provided that the database was supporting
> PL/SQL, external tables, BFILE fields, function based indexes and
> UTL_SMTP package. That is my kind of unified approach and my kind of
> database independence!
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> Mladen Gogala
> Oracle DBA
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Radu-Adrian Popescu
CSA, DBA, Developer
Aldrapay MD
Aldratech Ltd.
+40213212243
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