Yeah, I usually use sqlplus too. But, I'm trying to do some large scale digging about in a database that's about to go production and I didn't build it. Was hoping for a handy dandy tool that would let be flail about faster than typing in SQL. Which is truly strange because I usually find hammering sql on the keyboard to be much faster than point and click and click and point and ... John ----- Original Message ---- From: Don Seiler <don@xxxxxxxxx> To: orclwzrd@xxxxxxxxx Cc: oracle-l <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 4:42:52 PM Subject: Re: The end of TOra I was wondering this too since nothing on their website or mailing lists says anything of the sort. I'm a fan of Oracle SQL Developer, although it still has some java-related quirks (slow startup, sometimes leaves artifacts on the screen). I'm *trying* to rely more on sqlplus these days, and the column ... format command is my new best friend. Obviously doesn't help you much though. Don. On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 3:33 PM, John D Parker <orclwzrd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I may have mis spoken! I just got an email from the lead developer of TOra > and he asked where I heard it was dead. He says they are working hard on it! > Way cool! Long live TOra. > > John > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: John D Parker <orclwzrd@xxxxxxxxx> > To: oracle-l <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 2:56:27 PM > Subject: The end of TOra > > Well, I visited the SourceForge site of my long time fav Oracle tool TOra. > The end of life release has been posted. Why is it my favorite tools die > ugly deaths... > > Does anyone have a suggestion for replacing TOra in my desktop toolkit? > What's your fav tool. I've tried sql developer and Tom Kyte may like it but > ICK! is all I can say. I'm a DBA not a Developer. TOra could snoop around > and build code. > > I'd love to hear your thoughts. > > John > > > > -- Don Seiler http://seilerwerks.wordpress.com ultimate: http://www.mufc.us