I don’t have all the details that were discussed with IBM. However, what I do
know is that we were assured by IBM that we could bring our database and RAC
licenses to their cloud and they would manage them using OVMs. However, unless
the vendor (Oracle) supports this setup why would anyone make a move knowing
that if they hit a bug, they would not get direct support from Oracle.
From: Stefan Knecht [mailto:knecht.stefan@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 10:05 AM
To: Hameed, Amir <Amir.Hameed@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Matthew Parker <dimensional.dba@xxxxxxxxxxx>; gerald.venzl@xxxxxxxxxx;
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Subject: Re: The cost of Oracle in AWS
Is it IBM that would "support" the environment, or Oracle?
On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 9:57 PM, Hameed, Amir
<Amir.Hameed@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Amir.Hameed@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
But your statement negates what Stefan had initially posted, doesn’t it?
"The Oracle Cloud is currently the only cloud offering certified and supported
to run Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) databases."
From: Matthew Parker
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Subject: RE: The cost of Oracle in AWS
IBM runs the instances on UEL OVM which is supported.
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Subject: RE: The cost of Oracle in AWS
Our data center is exploring IBM’s IaaS as an option to host infrastructure.
IBM has told them that they are a Platinum partner of Oracle and that they
would support our RAC environments deployed on Oracle’s VMs on LINUX. So, if a
software product, RAC in this case, is not certified by Oracle to run on
third-party clouds then how are these vendors making these claims openly?
Thanks
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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerald Venzl
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Subject: Re: The cost of Oracle in AWS
Certified is an understatement in this case.
It’s not supported at all on Azure, full stop:
4) Apart from licensing, can RAC be supported on Third-Party Clouds?
Answer: As the licensing restriction documented above currently restricts the
use of Oracle RAC in either Amazon’s AWS or Microsoft Windows Azure or any
other ThirdParty Cloud for this matter, Oracle has ceased any supportability
evaluation of ThirdParty Clouds for Oracle RAC in general. That said, the lack
of natively provided shared storage in addition to certain network restrictions
that would need to be worked around on most Third-Party Clouds currently
prevent Oracle from supporting any Third-Party Cloud for Oracle RAC presently
and regardless of technical feasibility.
Thx,
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On Jan 25, 2018, at 06:09, Stefan Knecht
<knecht.stefan@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:knecht.stefan@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
One thing not to be disregarded is the usual implication of running RAC on any
non-Oracle virtualized platform is that it's not officially certified by
Oracle. Depending on your client, that may be the end of discussion right there
and then.
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/options/clustering/overview/rac-cloud-support-2843861.pdf
"The Oracle Cloud is currently the only cloud offering certified and supported
to run Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) databases."
Stefan
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