Thanks for all the sympathetic responses on Mviews. I really appreciate them. What I was hoping for was specific suggestions, or ways in which listees have actually enhanced the monitoring infrastructure. We now have a process that detects the fact that the DBA job is running past the next refresh time (by joining two separate Oracle viers (dba_jobs_running/dba_mview). This should be part of the Oracle software, because it pretty much defines a data integrity issue, in my opinion. It almost seems as though Oracle touted Snapshots, and then Mviews, as THE distributed data solution years ago, and yet never fully carried out the mission. I almost have to blush, because I had several development teams dismantle manual table copies between systems as unreliable, and they certainly were LESS reliable than what Oracle provides. However, as a DBA, I maintain that anything less than 100% data integrity, regardless of the cause (and network is often a prime suspect) ought to at least be detected and reported by the DB software. Any other opinions? Michael Fontana Sr. DBA NTT/Verio -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lex de Haan Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 1:44 PM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Snapshot (Materialized View) Maladies Hi Michael, did you check out 10g? there are various enhancements in the MV area, such as TUNE_MVIEW, new columns in the REWRITE_TABLE, and the REWRITE_OR_ERROR hint ... and in the area of jobs, the DBMS_SCHEDULER is an interesting new package. I am pretty sure there are still lots of opportunities for further enhancements :-) Kind regards, Lex. --------------------------------------------- visit my website at http://www.naturaljoin.nl --------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Michael Fontana Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 20:37 To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Snapshot (Materialized View) Maladies I am getting prepared to write up an enhancement request to Oracle for improved administration, configuration and problem detection tools for Materialized View (aka snapshot) processing. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------