RE: [SPAM] RE: Plea for Query Tuning Help

  • From: "Bobak, Mark" <Mark.Bobak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Charlotte Hammond" <charlottejanehammond@xxxxxxxxx>, <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:13:13 -0400

Wow, this one is really stubborn, eh? ;-) 


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-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Hammond [mailto:charlottejanehammond@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:13 PM
To: Bobak, Mark; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SPAM] RE: Plea for Query Tuning Help
Importance: Low

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the idea, yet another different plan but sadly CBO=19223 and
it runs "forever" :-(

Thanks
Charlotte

--- "Bobak, Mark" <Mark.Bobak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> One more idea:
> 
> with subq as (select id from my_table where
> rownum=1)
> SELECT /*+ ordered use_nl(nv) */ nv.*
> FROM subq sq, NASTY_VIEW nv
> where sq.id = nv.id;
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> -Mark
> 
> --
> Mark J. Bobak
> Senior Oracle Architect
> ProQuest Information & Learning
> 
> "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, 
> butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance

> accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, 
> give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new 
> problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight 
> efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
> --Robert A. Heinlein
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charlotte Hammond
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 4:31 PM
> To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Plea for Query Tuning Help
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Thanks to all who have responded both on and off the list.  A couple 
> of people have asked me to post the plan but it is huge (due to 
> NASTY_VIEW) so I'd rather not (at least yet!) as it'd probably be more

> off-putting than anything else :-)
> 
> Essentially I just want the WHERE id = on NASTY_VIEW to treat the 
> right value the same if it's a bind or if it's coming from a 
> sub-query.  Many good suggestions but no luck yet.  I thought I'd post

> the results to see if anyone can spot anything from them...
> 
> Here's an even simpler example:
> 
> The Good case again:
> 
> SELECT *
> FROM NASTY_VIEW
> WHERE id = :bind
> 
> --> < 1 sec, (CBO=410)
> 
> 
> Any now some attempts to use a value from a SELECT.
> 
> 1.  Simple select:
> 
> SELECT *
> FROM NASTY_VIEW
> WHERE id = (SELECT :bind FROM dual)
> 
> -->  long time (CBO=17378)
> 
> 2. Try with a join instead: 
> 
> SELECT *
> FROM NASTY_VIEW nv, (SELECT :bind id FROM dual) b WHERE nv.id = b.id
> 
> --> long time (CBO=32731)
> 
> 3.  Try putting in a row number limitation / pseudo-column
> 
> SELECT *
> FROM NASTY_VIEW nv, (SELECT :bind id, rownum rn FROM dual WHERE
> rownum=1) b WHERE nv.id = b.id
> 
> --> long time (CBO=17388)
> 
> 4.  Try NO_MERGE hint
> 
> SELECT *
> FROM NASTY_VIEW
> WHERE id = (SELECT /*+ NO_MERGE */ :bind FROM dual)
> 
> -->  long time (CBO=17378) (Same plan as 1)
> (Same result if NO_MERGE hint in the outer SELECT)
> 
> 5.  Try FIRST_ROWS(n) hint
> 
> SELECT /*+ FIRST_ROWS(1) */
> FROM NASTY_VIEW
> WHERE id = (SELECT :bind FROM dual)
> 
> --> long time (CBO=6030) (Best yet but still very
> slow
> compared to good case; other values of n were the same or worse)
> 
> 6.  Try hidden parameter tweaking
> 
> ALTER SESSION SET "_UNNEST_SUBQUERY"=FALSE;  --> same as 1 ALTER 
> SESSION SET "_COMPLEX_VIEW_MERGING"=FALSE --> same as 1
> 
> Many thanks again for all your time.
> 
> Charlotte
> 
> 
> 
> > On 9/12/06, Charlotte Hammond
> > <charlottejanehammond@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > How can I prevent this happening  so that it
> > "looks"
> > > like the first "fantastic" query?  I've tried
> > messing
> > > with hints (NO_MERGE and PUSH_SUBQ) but I don't
> > know
> > > enough to do so effectively.  Statistics are
> full
> > and
> > > up to date.  This is Oracle 9.2.0.6.
> > >
> > >
> 
> 
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