Thanks for your response John. I’ll have to dig up the document, but we found
that FM added the requirement for bidirectional traffic on 3872. Gary is right
in the case of a regular OEM configuration. We have used that for a while.
Of course we could be missing something…
Steve
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I discussed this with Gary Henderson. He says when you install OEM, you have
the option to select a different port besides 3872. The installation defaults
to that port, but you don’t have to use it.
Also, traffic to that port should be inbound only. To clarify, traffic from
the OMS to the agent is via the agent port (3872), but traffic from the agent
to the OMS is via the upload port (typically 4900)…so not bidirectional.
Thanks,
John
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I’m curious if anyone else has run into the architecture issue we have run into
while trying to implement Fleet Maintenance? FM requires bidirectional traffic
over port 3872, which our InfoSec group will not allow. We haven’t found any
settings to redirect traffic over a different port.
Thanks,
Steve
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Jay,
It was a combination of self-learning (reading Oracle’s documentation for
Enterprise Manager Lifecycle Management Administrator's Guide), and also a
great working relationship directly with the OEM development team. We have
been a beta tester for this product, more or less. This has given us the
ability to share our issues directly with the OEM team and receive
fixes/updates more quickly.
We are still integrating some features of Fleet Maintenance into our
provisioning and patching processes. But what we have integrated so far has
drastically reduced the amount of work that we used to do when we were
provisioning and patching manually.
Thanks,
John
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John,
I attended this session. Your team did an excellent job. Did you folks learn
on your own, attend training, or engage Oracle consulting in order to learn how
to use this feature of EM? Patching is one of our biggest pain points at the
moment.
Thank you,
Jay Hostetter
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Our company uses Fleet Maintenance for Oracle Home provisioning and Database
Patching. We plan on using it for Database Upgrades too in the next year.
Gary Henderson and Vaithianathan Soundararajan presented on our company’s use
of Fleet Maintenance yesterday at OOW. Hopefully, you were able to attend
their presentation.
The actual patching process runs roughly 6-10 minutes per database for us
(would be quicker, but patching the OJVM component requires bouncing the
database to put it in upgrade mode, and bouncing it again after patching is
complete to open it read/write).
We have well over 1,000 databases, and patch each database at least twice per
year. What used to take an entire staff of 10 DBAs is now handled by 1-2 DBAs.
Thanks,
John
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I’m curious to know how many are using Rapid Home Provisioning in their
organization and how you are using it. Have you compared RHP to Database Fleet
Maintenance? Are you considering using Database Fleet Maintenance to patch and
upgrade your databases over RHP?
We have been using RHP for roughly the past year. In our environment, RHP is
used mainly to provision Oracle Homes for our databases and to create the
databases (CDBs). Our original plan was to use it for database patching as
well. The creation of Oracle Home images and working copies has worked well
overall across our various clusters. However, the performance of the working
copy creation is not good. The process runs over 90 minutes in a four node
cluster. It runs much longer in our larger clusters. The database creation
process works, but in some cases we wish we had more customization options.
The database patching (“rhpctl move database”) has been very buggy in our
environment. Given the various issues we have with RHP, we are considering a
switch to Database Fleet Maintenance.
I’m at OOW this week. If you’d like to meet up to discuss it further, send me
a message.
Thanks,
Mike
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