Re: Oracle to Postgres training at PGConf US
- From: Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Tim Gorman <tim.evdbt@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 22:36:28 -0400
On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 17:36:29 -0600
Tim Gorman <tim.evdbt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You can't judge a conference unless you have experienced it, so your
opinion that "it is not a decent conference" has no substance and thus
is irrelevant.
Not quite true. I have experienced conferences like it, I have even hosted one.
That gives me the right to judge. In principle, it is true, it is not possible
to accurately judge an event before experiencing it, but I don't have to be at
the concert of Toby Keith or Kid Rock to know that they are not playing my kind
of music.
Comparing advanced features between an open-source project and its
commercial competitors makes as much sense as comparing licensing
costs. It all depends on your requirements.
That is not quite true. We are talking about the software from the same
category: relational databases. All relational databases are expected to have
certain set of features, in addition to supporting SQL. There is also such a
thing as an attitude of the developer community, which is one of the problems
with PostgreSQL. We've had one of the very respected members of the PostgreSQL
community, Joshua Drake, come to oracle-l and tell us that "hints are optimizer
bugs". Quite a brazen statement, if you consider the fact that most of the
people on this list know and use hints for quite some time.
As a long term Oracle person, I know you've used hints many times, you're an
expert on hints, among other things. Do you agree with that statement? I
certainly do not, I consider it silly. Would you really want to attend a
conference organized mostly by the people who agree with Josh Drake on that
silly statement? The funny thing with that statement is that PostgreSQL now
does have Oracle style hints, but the old Stonebraker school doesn't give in so
easily.
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Mladen Gogala
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