I feel your pain. We are looking at a hardware refresh internally and ran into that same problem. We are using Dell PowerEdge servers with Windows, so not sure if what we are doing will work for you. But, Dell is able to provide us slightly older processors that are only dual core, but still much newer and faster than the dual cores we are running. Not sure if Sparc can do this or not. Unfortunately, there is not a lot of ways around it. I've had several conversations with Oracle reps and they do not know of any change to Oracles licensing structure coming up anytime soon. I agree with Freek. If possible, I would consolidate databases if possible and try to eliminate servers. -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D'Hooge Freek Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:25 PM To: Mike.Jenner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Oracle multi-core CPU licensing model. Mike, Is it feasible to consolidate several databases on 1 server? That way, your total number of cpu's in the environment would be lower and thus the required number of Oracle licences. Regards, Freek D'Hooge Uptime Oracle Database Administrator email: freek.dhooge@xxxxxxxxx tel +32(0)3 451 23 82 http://www.uptime.be disclaimer: www.uptime.be/disclaimer ________________________________________ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jenner, Mike Sent: dinsdag 11 mei 2010 16:49 To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Oracle multi-core CPU licensing model. Hi list, I have a big headache caused by Oracle's licensing model per CPU-core. I'm not looking to start a rant about Oracle's licensing model/direction. Can anyone share useful tips if they've been able to minimise license costs in a situation like mine? Here's some details: . We have an agreement with the client to refresh older servers with (as close as poss) like-for-like. . We have a Sunfire 280R (1 CPU), which falls under this refresh category now. o This server needs Oracle Enterprise Ed with Spatial option. o Our site uses Sun/Solaris for UNIX and we'd very much prefer to stick with Unix for this app/database. . I'm told by our sysadmins (and a check of Sun's site confirms) that suitable replacements can have minimum CPUs of either: o 2 x 6-Core 1.2Ghz UltraSPARC T2 Plus processors or o Quad-Core 1.2Ghz UltraSPARC T2. . We are refreshing because of our agreement with the client. We don't have a pressing need to add CPU power. . These CPU type have slightly different license cost multipliers: The T2+ is 0.5 and the T2 is 0.75 . Our sysadmins also don't support Solaris containers. . Both these options would add to our Oracle licensing costs by a minimum of 2 CPUs. o 4cores * 0.75 = 3 cpu-licenses. We already have 1 cpu that we can transfer, which leaves 2 cpu licenses we need to buy : o 2 x ( £34k EE + £6K Spatial) = £80k . So that's an Extra £80k for licenses we don't have a need for. On a server that will be cost much less that £80 ! Any tips on your previous experience or advice for me to investigate further are appreciated. Thanks. Mike Jenner Oracle Database Administrator, Application Services, -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l