Re: Oracle Database Backups using Legato

  • From: Paula Stankus <paulastankus@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: sbootsma@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:48:15 -0700 (PDT)

Sam,
   
  I just went through an installation/configuration of Legato Networker's 
Oracle module.  In the Legato Administration or Installation guide there is an 
example of "scheduling" the execution of "RMAN" commands in a script.  I have 
always used RMAN with Networker and it is important to understand what all of 
these pieces are for.  RMAN is both an executable with its own language and a 
catalog which stores the history of your backups.  The Oracle target database, 
the objects backed up, what backupsets they are in and when the backups 
occurred.  The RMAN catalog is basically a repository or metadata about your 
backups whether or not you write to tape (and use a Media management layer like 
Networker) or disk.  You can do backups without using the catalog and you can 
run backups with using RMAN commands.  However, I have never done so.  To me 
there are numerous advantages to keeping my information about my backups 
organized through RMAN.  
   
  Oracle is linked with some Media Management software to enable backups to be 
written to tape.  The Media Management software does not take care of hot 
backups.  It allows the backups to be written to tape.  You still need the 
appropriate "Oracle" but not necessarily "RMAN" commands to run your backups 
including hot backups.  However, you can schedule a script with these commands 
through Legato's Networker or through a crontab job.  
   
  Regardless of what method you use, it is always wise to periodically test 
your backups by doing a restore/recovery in an environment that will not impact 
your current environments.  
   
  Hope this helps.
  Paula ;)
  
Sam Bootsma <sbootsma@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
                One of our user departments has an Oracle 10g database running 
on a Windows 2003 box.  The ITS department performs the backups using Legato 
and the Legato Oracle Module.  To the best of my knowledge, RMAN is not used 
for this particular database.  I think it is a hot backup directly to tape, or 
maybe SAN storage.  
   
  I know a plain and simple hot backups creates a worthless backup unless the 
tablespaces are put in backup mode or RMAN is used.  The backup people believe 
the Legato Oracle Module will ensure the hot backup is good ? but I am not so 
sure.  I thought the Legato Oracle Module just provided an interface for the 
Oracle database (eg. RMAN) to use Legato Backup and still write directly to 
tape.  I don?t think the Legato Oracle Module ensures the backup is good.  Can 
somebody confirm, and even better, clarify, my understanding of how Legato 
Oracle Module works with Oracle to perform backups?  Also, is RMAN still needed 
for the backup to be good?  I expect they are backing up both data files (open 
of course) and archived log files.  
   
  This entire situation is more political than it is anything else.  I have 
suggested a test recovery be performed to validate the backup, but I didn?t get 
feedback to make me believe that is going to happen.  Also, the political 
nature of this issue means they don?t me involved.
   
  Thanks for your responses!
   
   
  Sam Bootsma
  Oracle Database Administrator
  Information Technology Services
George Brown College
  Phone: 416-415-5000 x4933
Fax: 416-415-4836
E-mail: sbootsma@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
   



                
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