Anyone know where I can find this....its no longer on OTN that I can find. John Dunn Product Consultant Direct Dial +44 (0) 117 373 6122 Sefas Innovation Ltd, CityPoint, Temple Gate, Bristol BS1 6PL, UK. Tel: +44(0) 117 373 6114 Fax: +44 (0) 117 373 6115 www.sefas.com -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l