To answer your original question, Mladen, job posts from list members, for
openings in their employers, are welcome. We don't permit recruiters to
spam us....that's what LinkedIn is for.....😀
As to the availability of Oracle jobs, well, as Mogens likes to say, "We
are legacy."
-Mark
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 04:12 Oracle List <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mladen, looks like you've been in this line for quite some time, and me
too. Been in close quarters with Oracle since v4 - the time of iad/iap etc.
Not sure how things will turn out, so of late, I've been spending a lot of
time with Karaoke :)
On Dec 27, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On 12/27/2016 09:57 PM, Jack van Zanen wrote:
I think Oracle jobs are dying out...
Of course they are dying out. I've seen the same trend with VMS admin jobs
in the early 90's. The reasons are probably nearly identical. I've seen
the same quasi-religious zeal then, too. Of course, it didn't last. Let me
remind you what happened then:
- There was an extreme enmity toward the people saying that Unix on
Intel maybe worth looking at. DEC also took all of their user groups under
its wings and kept the firm control until the very end.
- The licenses for VMS 5.5-2 were really expensive. The same was true
for the top of the line machines like VAX 6400 and VAX 9000.
- DEC became a sales & marketing oriented company from an engineering
company.
- There were similar attempts to subvert the standards. Does anyone
here remember the "new and improved SCSI bus" on VAX 4200? It wasn't
compatible with the normal SCSI, which meant that disks were only available
from DEC itself and its licensed OEM companies. IT is the same as OID,
which is not compatible with a generic LDAP server.
- The trend of hiding the internal information was quite remarkable.
It was possible to buy VMS source code until version 5.0 and many books
were published on the internals of the VMS operating system, NVAX CPU and
various other products.
- The pressure to upgrade to the new and "better" machines was also
present.
Similarities are really striking.
In my area only very few Oracle jobs come up...many SQL jobs though..Most
Oracle jobs also require SQL so looks like they are dying out by themselves
Of course they are dying out. Oracle as a technology investment makes
sense only for the very high demand OLTP, a market on which it has to
compete against very much cheaper DB2, and an extremely large DW, where it
must compete with Greenplum and Netezza, which were both conceived as
Exadata killers. You can create a partitioned table for free in both
databases, they don't charge for the tuning tools separately and, of
course, they don't charge you for the right to create data and they both
have columnar store included in their enterprise edition equivalents. The
market will become really interesting in June 2017, when SQL Server will
enter the fray on Linux.
Dying out of Oracle jobs is just a logical consequence. For small and
medium large databases SQL Server has wiped the floor with Oracle. That is
why the employers want a SQL Server DBA, with an exposure to Oracle, not an
Oracle expert with some exposure to SQL Server. The whole market is
undergoing a radical change.
The Oracle-l will also suffer a similar fate. It is already bereft of its
most interesting posters and nobody bothers to post jobs here any more.
This is an ace place, where total beginners come to ask fairly
uninteresting questions. I helped deliver Oracle-l into this world and I
might also be one of the pal bearers.
--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBAhttp://mgogala.freehostia.com
