FYI: Don't get mad about bad books, try this for $10: http://www.apress.com/promo/ Some suggestions might be: Mastering Oracle SQL and SQL*Plus http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=385 Mastering Oracle PL/SQL: Practical Solutions http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=276 Expert Oracle, Signature Edition http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=456 PHP Web Development with Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 2004 http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=306 Pro Oracle Spatial http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=315 (Spatial is a $70 book for $10, not bad) :-) Others? Regards, Mike Thomas -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l