Mark,
I wouldn't expect with your recent employer you were with for a number of
years, which maintained and expected it's own proprietary monitoring tool in
place, to offer you the opportunity to utilize OEM. I worked for your team and
know I was one of the only ones using OEM due to some customer requirements at
that time.
Now, with that said, I am seeing a lot of assumptions from folks on this list
about cost, plugins, capabilities, etc. of EM Cloud Control product and when
shown otherwise, admit to lacking knowledge, but continuing to make claims. We
are supposed to be technical specialists who work from data and avoid guessing,
assumptions and answers based off assumptions. It might be worthwhile to spend
some research time before continuing to disagree with people like Pete,
Courtney and myself that work with the product everyday, (and are in no way
marketing, we're tech) or Hans, Bobby. Maaz and others on this list that are
part of the EM CAB, (customer advisory board).
Just an idea...:)
Kellyn
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From:"MARK BRINSMEAD" <mark.brinsmead@xxxxxxxxx>
Date:Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:25
Subject:Re: Monitoring Standard Edition in EM 12c
I never said these things were popular or in widespread use. They might be --
I wouldn't know. In the past 10 years, I have only encountered OEM used to
monitor Oracle in a small fraction of the sites I have visited, but that could
be because the sites I get to visit are part of a self-selecting group (people
who are willing to hire people like me) and in no way are representative of the
norm.
I rather suspect that if Oracle made OEM a more affordable choice for
monitoring its own products it may gain traction and become more popular with
other products. Or not. I am not a marketing professional, and I have no
data, so how would I know?
In any case, the discussion here -- at least as pertains to OEM -- is more
about what can be done, not so much about what usually is done.
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Mladen Gogala <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On 05/29/2015 01:22 AM, MARK BRINSMEAD wrote:
Actually, I believe there may be third party plugins for SQLserver and MySQL,
too. Since I neither use OEM much, nor those databases, its just something I
(might) recall having heard discussed not something I have actively researched.
I'd be a little surprised if a thorough search did not turn up some kind of
plugins for DB2, Postgres, etc.
I have done gigs with SQL Server, DB2 and Postgres and I have never encountered
OEM 12c as monitoring software of choice. It is used mainly for monitoring
Oracle. Which tells me all I need to know about the perception of the tool. The
main question is not the one about availability of plugins, the main question
is the one about the number of users. And somehow, I don't think there are many
of those using OEM 12c to monitor SQL Server. I can make a case for Nagios or
Zabbix in a minute, and price remains the same. And so can any Windows, Linux
or MySQL administrator.
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Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA
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