RE: Interesting Exploit in PL/SQL

  • From: "Jacques Kilchoer" <Jacques.Kilchoer@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "oracle-l" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:34:24 -0800

So if your procedure was only able to enable auditing on half the objects in 
the database, and failed to enable auditing on the other half, you didn't care? 
I guess in this case it would make sense. But then the other option would be to 
not run the procedure at all, if you didn't care which objects had auditing 
enabled.

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De : Stefan Knecht [mailto:knecht.stefan@xxxxxxxxx] 
Envoyé : jeudi, 30. novembre 2006 02:18
À : Jacques Kilchoer
Cc : oracle-l
Objet : Re: Interesting Exploit in PL/SQL


There are situations where you can use when others then null; - and it even 
makes sense. 

For example, we've had a procedure to enable / disable auditing on all objects 
in a database. To avoid having to filter out all possible errors 
due to the huge number of different objects (and especially the sys objects) we 
used a construct like

begin
noaudit all on x.y;
exception
when others then null;
end;

If the noaudit fails for whatever reason (we just don't care why here), we 
simply go on to the next object. That was perfectly fine for this case. 

Stefan



On 11/29/06, Jacques Kilchoer <Jacques.Kilchoer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

        What does this below mean? Are you trying to say "when you MUST make 
sure that the program NEVER stops, regardless of whatever errors I encounter" ?
        If so, I can't imagine why someone would want to do that.
        
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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] De la part de Nuno Souto 
        Envoyé : mercredi, 29. novembre 2006 00:26
        Cc : Oracle-L Freelists
        Objet : Re: Interesting Exploit in PL/SQL
        
        
        4- If you don't know what error can be generated but you MUST run the 
code nevertheless, then you MUST use WHEN OTHERS THEN NULL.  Or pay the price 
of a temp table to keep all possible return codes.  Otherwise your code won't 
run.  No, I will NOT recommend coding exceptions for 20000 possible error 
returns! 
        
        
        So, rather than embark in yet another crusade of calling anyone who 
doesn't follow the fad an incompetent by nature, can we just for once address 
the problem at the root?
        
        And ask Oracle to fix it first rather than blame everyone else for it? 
        
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