RE: Intel-Hyperthread-Linux-Oracle
- From: david hill <david.hill@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'Les.Hollis@xxxxxx'" <Les.Hollis@xxxxxx>, Christian.Antognini@xxxxxxxxxxxx, richard.c.ji@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:02:46 -0500
Looks like you got a nice rep. Les
Here's what Oracle says in their licensing definition.
http://oraclestore.oracle.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=11365
<http://oraclestore.oracle.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=11365&me
dia=os_g_english_help_licensing> &media=os_g_english_help_licensing
Processor: shall be defined as all processors where the Oracle programs are
installed and/or running. Programs licensed on a Processor basis may be
accessed by your internal users (including agents and contractors) and by
your third party users. For the purposes of counting the number of
processors which require licensing, a multicore chip with "n" processor
cores shall be counted as "n" processors.
Good news is though, it looks like the industry going to be pushing oracle
to change it. Little Story at the Register today
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/09/mcnealy_oracle_pricing/
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/09/mcnealy_oracle_pricing/>
-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis, Les [mailto:Les.Hollis@xxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 12:08 PM
To: Christian.Antognini@xxxxxxxxxxxx; richard.c.ji@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Intel-Hyperthread-Linux-Oracle
As I mentioned yesterday, when we were in discussions with Oracle Tech
reps and Sales reps, they informed us unequivocally that all that
mattered is the PHYSICAL count of CPU's hyperthreading / multi-core
did not matter...
I also said that you could probably talk with different reps and get
different answers....They'll tell you whatever pops in their
heads...remember they ARE sales people and they DO get paid based on the
revenue they bring in.
Example we have a SUN E10k with 64 procs split into 7 nodes...(6 with 8
procs and 1 with 16 procs) they were telling us that we needed to
license based on all 64 procs because we could redirect processors to
different nodes if we wished by software commands. (We are looking at a
couple of 'web based' apps that will require CPU licensing as opposed to
named users....at $40K per CPU, could kill the IT budget for the next
century)
NOT TRUE...E10K does not have that ability....after several months, they
finally agreed that we were right and we had them put it on paper for
us...
SO, call back and talk to someone else and I bet you get a different
answer.....
-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christian Antognini
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:13 AM
To: richard.c.ji@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Intel-Hyperthread-Linux-Oracle
Hi Richard
>I wonder what Oracle's licensing plans are for CPUs that
>are: Hyper-threading, dual-core. Anyone has any insights
>to share?
No idea about hyper-threading but I know that multi-core CPUs are not =
=3D
counted as a single processor! i.e. dual-core means to CPU for the =3D
license.
Chris
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