Reid joined to Pelosi. I'm not sure whether that is Cartesian. and the rest of my thoughts on the topic are self-censored. _____ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wolfgang Breitling Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 4:20 PM To: Brandon.Allen@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: In case you needed something to laugh about today... That immediately begs the question "How many cartesion joins does it take to match the US national debt?" At 01:05 PM 12/18/2009, Allen, Brandon wrote: Ha ha! Id suspect your developer might benefit from reading this link: http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/server.102/b14200/queries006.ht m#sthref3170 I had to test it and found its pretty easy to beat that with a few cartesian joins - I got a cost of 939 quadrillion: Regards Wolfgang Breitling Centrex Consulting Corporation http://www.centrexcc.com <http://www.centrexcc.com/>