That is bogus beyond belief. The Heisenberg Uncertainty Priciple mainly invoved predicting the position of an electron around an atomic nucleus. Even a single photon of light (the mechanism of "observing" / measuring the electron's position) would radically offset the electron, so you'd never know where it was at before the "measuring" photon hit it. If the Measurement / Measured relationship is on the scale of Photon / Electron, then there's reason to be concerned. However, realistically, the amount of heat extracted from a person's body to expand the mercury in a thermometer to measure that person's temperature introduces no error in the measured temperature. Unless your database monitoring tool is more like a sledgehammer than a stethoscope, you're OK. Of course, that's IMHO. Jack C. Applewhite - Database Administrator Austin (Texas) Independent School District 512.414.9715 (wk) / 512.935.5929 (pager) I'll just sit back in the shade while everyone gets laid. That's what I call Intelligent Design. -- God ("Origin of Species": Chris Smither) "Ted Coyle" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 07/31/2007 03:38 PM Please respond to oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx To "'oracle-l'" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject Heisenberg and measurement intrusion.... I'm on an Oracle performance project and a project participant made a statement regarding measurement intrusion. Is the statement below accurate? "So the Heisenberg uncertainty principle mandates we run without monitoring as a baseline." I responded with a wikipedia link which I'll send later, but I'd like to get opinions first. :) Regards, Ted -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l