Can you clarify your comments about ITL and ITC. Do you mean that the value from ini_trans in dba_tables and dba_indexes were 10 and 11 respectively ? If so, then you should expect the number of ITL slots in the tables and indexes to be 10 and 11 (assuming the initrans was not altered on the fly after data had been entered). If you want to determine the actual concurrency from the block dumps, you would have to guess, based on how close the SCNs were in the ITL entries. TX/4 arises from many causes - the most likely one on inserts into heap tables relates to collision on primary keys and foreign keys. Could you have multiple processes trying to insert the same PK, waiting, failing, then using the next value from a sequence number to try again ? Could you have processes inserting child rows for parent rows that had not yet been created ... and so on. Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html Optimising Oracle Seminar http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html June 2004 UK Manchester July 2004 Iceland July 2004 USA California Aug 2004 USA North Carolina Sept 2004 UK Manchester Sept 2004 USA NYC Oct 2004 USA Boston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diego Cutrone" <diegocutrone@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Oracle List" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:35 PM Subject: Enqueue TX level 4 wait -- blocks dump Hi everybody, I have a question on TX enqueues. I'm seeing a lot of TX enqueues level 4 on a table. I have also found that the statement that was waiting on this wait was an ***INSERT*** operation. Oracle 8i Table: ITL = 10 4 FREELISTS 4 FREELISTS GROUPS PCTFREE 20 I dumped every table block and checked the ITC entry. I found ITC was almost always 10 for every block. Then I checked for the average free space within the blocks, (supposing the block had needed an additional ITL slot) and again I found that in every block there was at least 80 bytes free. (as Avsp reported). So I went for the indexes ITL = 11 4 FREELISTS 4 FREELISTS GROUPS PCTFREE 10 and I found no problem at all in the ITC entries.(most of them were 11) But I found many blocks with kdxcoavs = 0. (no free space on them). Taking into consideration that we're talking about an INSERT, Can it be possible that the TX 4 is being caused by an ITL shortage in the index? (All slots are being used and there's no free space in the block, so when a new INSERT needs to put its entry in that block, despite of the fact that this block will surely need to split because there's no free space left in it, the transaction first needs to get a free ITL slot and as they are all taken and there's no free space it has to wait in a enqueue TX 4. Is this the way it works on this case?) What do you think? Thanks, Diego. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------