It is creating the flashback log as part of the mounting process. Here is the alert log snippet that I'm basing this on: Sun Sep 21 09:40:38 2014 Successful mount of redo thread 3, with mount id 4175062721 Sun Sep 21 10:23:02 2014 Allocated 331130296 bytes in shared pool for flashback generation buffer Starting background process RVWR Sun Sep 21 10:23:02 2014 RVWR started with pid=28, OS id=69631 Database mounted in Exclusive Mode Lost write protection disabled Completed: alter database mount Sun Sep 21 10:23:15 2014 alter database flashback off Stopping background process RVWR Deleted Oracle managed file /mnt/foo/fra/FOO/flashback/o1_mf__1411306838866824_.flb Flashback Database Disabled Completed: alter database flashback off You can see the 43 minute delay between the mount of the last redo thread and the flashback generation buffer. During that time I see the flashback .flb log file being written to on the NFS mount. When that finishes, the database is mounted and flashback is immediately disabled (per the script). Don. On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Seth Miller <sethmiller.sm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Don, > > Are you saying that the instance is creating a flashback log before it is > mounted? > > How did you come to the conclusion that it is the log creation causing the > wait? > > Seth Miller > > > On Tuesday, October 7, 2014, Don Seiler <don@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Good evening, >> >> Part of my staging/dev refresh process involves taking an image copy >> backup of prod datafiles and controlfiles and firing up a new instance from >> them. The first thing I do when mounting the new database is to turn off >> flashback. However recently we're seeing that the time to mount takes >> almost 40 minutes while the instance creates a new flashback log. Seems >> silly to have to wait for this when we plan to disable it right away anyway. >> >> Is there a way to disable flashback database without having to mount? I'm >> guessing the worst case scenario is having to create a trace of the >> controlfile and create a new one with flashback disabled. >> >> Don. >> >> -- >> Don Seiler >> http://www.seiler.us >> > -- Don Seiler http://www.seiler.us