RE: DBAs:Databases 1:10 (Oracle) 1:31 (SQL Server)

  • To: <bzelli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <Oracle-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:44:13 -0400

I attended a presentation yesterday on SQL2005. They claimed to have
instituted a locking mechanism similar to Oracle's.  I asked about
flashback. Apparently you can create database snapshots but you have to
know to create one just before somebody drops a table accidently.  They
are supposed to be getting back to me about FGAC. 

Most of our money goes to Oracle licensing.  If Microsoft can get
anywhere close we're probably going to convert.  I really don't know
enough to argue the merits of the case either way.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Zelli, Brian
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:36 AM
To: Oracle-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: DBAs:Databases 1:10 (Oracle) 1:31 (SQL Server)


As a SQL server and oracle DBA, the concept of schema's was introduced
in SQL Server 2005.  I was just at a class where they said that they
want to make SQL Server more "oracle like"

ciao,                                
Brian
 
-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Grant Allen
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:33 AM
To: Oracle-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DBAs:Databases 1:10 (Oracle) 1:31 (SQL Server)

Gene Sais wrote:
> What Oracle calls a database is different from what SQLserver calls a
> database.  SQLserver databases are equivalent to Oracle schema's.

Bzzzzt!  Wrong (and not just you Gene - sorry to single you out).  This 
has not been the case for nearly a decade!  It makes me laugh every time

someone states this, especially as I have no love for the M$ product.  
SQL Server has *exactly* the same schema support as Oracle *as well as* 
support for multiple databases hosted by a given instance.  A more 
accurate way of thinking of databases in SQL Server is as another 
namespace level above schemas.

To keep this vaguely on topic, I wonder if the "number of databases" 
count for SQL Server is artificially boosted by the fact that for every 
instance a DBA manages, they can claim to be managing 5 or 6 databases 
for nothing - master, msdb, tempdb, pubs/northwind/adventureworks.

Ciao
Fuzzy
:-)

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