Re: DBA Hacks Book

  • From: "Darrell Landrum" <darrell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 21:27:13 -0500

DBA Hacks BookWell, Rob, that's a nice Mr. holier than thou attitude you have 
there.  In reference to the note at hand you don't know what you're talking 
about.
I didn't say users, I said developers and guess who developed said database, 
although the database is not the problem.  I'm talking about high paid 
programmers with at least several years and several classes behind them.  These 
people frequently do the wrong thing, often against advise and even against 
established standards (could go all night on the points of failure in an 
organization that let that happen).  Then, it is not just the programmer, but 
the DBA as well who gets paged in the middle of the night when their production 
job runs long and I find a pl/sql loop which calls the same function to get a 
fiscal month close date to compare to each of 64,000,000 records, 64,000,000 
times rather than once at the beginning of the program.  This occurred some 
months after the reviewing DBA on the project had given them specific details 
on how to code this better.
So, here we go again, indeed.  It is not me, but you who is short sighted in 
this case, and I do have just cause for complaining.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: rob zijlstra 
  To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 8:40 AM
  Subject: RE: DBA Hacks Book

  >> I work with developers who use our databases all the time in ways that 
aren't anticipated but I can't discuss it without a lot of unfriendly language.

   

  Here we go again.

  In prehistoric times (about 1980)  when I started to learn to program, one of 
the first things I learned that if a user does something that you hadn't 
anticipate, it was not the fault of the user. Of course it only meant that the 
programmer didn't use his brains enough to foresee these things. He should make 
a better program, and certainly NOT try to explain to the user that 'he 
shouldn't do that and that'; no, if he was a real programmer, the user could 
NEVER even do 'that and that'.

   

  The sentence above only means to me, that the person who developed the db in 
question should try to work smarter instead of complaining!

   

  Greetings,

   

  Rob Zijlstra.

   

   

   

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