AW: Java vs. Perl
- From: Stefan Jahnke <Stefan.Jahnke@xxxxxx>
- To: "'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:43:57 +0200
IMHO, you're right about Forte. But I personally consider Eclipse a =
viable
alternative to Netbeans (or Forte, which is basically the same, except =
for
the fact that you'll have to pay for it). IBM's Websphere Application
Developer is pretty much the commercial equivilant to Forte, as IBM =
allows
you to pay for it ;).=20
And I consider Java a much better language for building large =
applications
(just don't use entity beans;)) then Perl or Python or whatsoever. Zope =
for
instance isn't quite able to handle a big workload and Perl is nice, =
but
more of a scripting language, ... just thing of exception handling.
No intend to start a holy war, just my 0.02$,
Stefan
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Von: Mladen Gogala [mailto:mladen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Gesendet: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:29 PM
An: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: Re: Java vs. Perl
Well, perl is truly portable, truly open source language while Java is
owned by SUN, overly complex and fairly slow monster which tries to be
everything to everybody. Java is going to lose against .NOT because of =
the
traditional propensity of SUN Microsystems to sc*w up any decent =
development
tool they get. They did it with Forte, they have almost burried =
netscape=20
(it took some time for Mozilla to emerge as a decent alternative), they
all but destroyed Netscape web server (a.k.a "iPlanet") and, quite
predictably,
they'll lose against .NOT. The real competitor to ASP are not =
enterprise
java
beans and servlets, the real things that will make a dent in .NOT are =
Python
and
PHP. Note that Python IDE tools are much, much better then anything =
that
Java
has to offer and that Python is much, much easier to learn then Java. =
Java
is
going to join Microsoft Bob, Network computer, SQL*QMX, OEM Change =
Manager
(a bloated and unusable
product which cannot do 50% of the things that Quest Schema Manager =
does
with ease
and which falls apart if the schemas analyzed are much bigger then =
SCOTT),
Wordstar,
Wordperfect, Lotus 123, QuattroPro, DB3+, Clipper and SCO Unix/Xenix. =
Java
in Oracle
is one of the few bad visions that Mr. Ellison has ever had. Network
computer is
another one, but is very successfully revived by TIVO. In other words, =
true
believers (TM)
use perl. Infidels use Java, .NOT and other things.
On 04/02/2004 10:04:15 AM, Juan Cachito Reyes Pacheco wrote:
> Hi, please there is another reason than simple know perl, to use perl
> instead of Java.
> I always heard Java had more advantages than perl, including the fact =
that
> Oracle include it in the database.
>=20
> Now you are talking as much about perl, and I am thinking to study =
java, I
> am asking which is
> best. for most purpouses.
>=20
>=20
> Thanks :)
>=20
> Juan Carlos Reyes Pacheco
> OCP
> Database 9.2 Standard Edition
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