Jared, think parameter list ( p_in varchar2, p_in2 char) The lengths are undefined. -- Mark D Powell -- ________________________________ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Still Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 12:50 PM To: brian_wisniewski@xxxxxxxxx Cc: Oracle-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: 10046/10079 Tracing understanding - SOLVED Nice piece of work Brian, congratulations. Can you explain a bit more about the 'fixed length' of a char? CHAR in PL/SQL defaults to 1 character. eg. declare x char; begin x := 'AB'; dbms_output.put_line(length(x)); end; / This will fail with ORA-06502: PL/SQL: numeric or value error: character string buffer too small ORA-06512: at line 4 If it is declared like this then I understand the problem: declare x char(32767); begin x := 'AB'; dbms_output.put_line(length(x)); end; / Thanks, Jared On 8/4/05, Brian Wisniewski <brian_wisniewski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I finally figured out the problem with the SQL*Net more data to client problem. The developer defined output variables as CHAR since he was only passing back a single character. Well the max size of a CHAR field in a procedure is 32K and it's fixed length so it was returning the value back to the calling program along with another 32000+ spaces to fill it out to the max possible size. And he was doing this with 10 fields so that's a mere 320K of spaces sent back to the java pgm each and every time this pkg was called! Hence the need for Oracle to break that down into manageable pieces to send across the network. A quick change to VARCHAR2 fixed the issue. Initial testing showed this to only be an issue when the package was called by java - I didn't see this ...more data.. when I called it via sqlplus from the same client. - Brian -- Jared Still Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist