[optimal] Re: optimal Digest V2 #84 Lens Cleaning

  • From: Elisabeth Silvis <esilvis@xxxxxxx>
  • To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 11:30:52 -0400

After struggling with various combinations of cotton balls, breath, canned air, 
and rubbing alcohol pads, I am finally pretty satisfied with the Volk lens 
cleaners.  
In this order, I use
 air, if that doesn't take care of it,
breath and cotton ball, then air.  If that doesn't do it,
Volk lens cleaner, followed by breath and cotton ball, then air.  
Have not had problems with compromise on lense quality following this protocol.

Beth Silvis
Kresge Eye Institute


On May 7, 2011, at 1:09 AM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote:

> optimal Digest        Fri, 06 May 2011        Volume: 02  Issue: 084
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>               [optimal] FA dye dilution response
>               [optimal] Spectralis Lens Cleaning
>               [optimal] Re: Spectralis Lens Cleaning
>               [optimal] Ext hard drives
>               [optimal] Re: ICG and Metformin
>               [optimal] mail
>               [optimal] Re: Ext hard drives
>               [optimal] Re: Spectralis Lens Cleaning
>               [optimal] Re: Ext hard drives
>               [optimal] Remove me
>               [optimal] Re: Ext hard drives
>               [optimal] Re: Ext hard drives
>               [optimal] Re: Spectralis Lens Cleaning
>               [optimal] Re: Ext hard drives
>               [optimal] Re: ICG and Metformin
>               [optimal] Re: ICG and Metformin
>               [optimal] Remove Me
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> Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 10:00:20 -0400
> From: Joe Warnicki <warnickij@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [optimal] FA dye dilution response
> 
> Mark, When we were doing our blood flow studies we made lots of dilution 
> tests to measure the linearity of fluorescent response to dilution 
> ratio. Some were with saline some with blood. (Don't ask)
> 
> One of the issues we noticed was that with higher concentrations of dye, 
> the dye itself blocked the excitation light, so fluorescent intensity 
> dropped. Of course the dye on the surface could have also absorbed the 
> fluorescence from below.
> 
> It might be interesting to plot the response curves of different dyes to 
> dilution.
> 
> Also, if you could create a wedged test model you could see if a laser 
> at the exciter color penetrates differently with the lighter dye.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On 5/5/2011 10:02 PM, vasion@xxxxxxx wrote:
>> Mark,
>> 
>> This is Marc with Instruments for Vision In Syracuse.
>> This question is too "out there" to post on Optimal.
>> 
>> I am doing a study on Camera sensitivity when it comes to visualizing 
>> florescence using AK-fluor 25%.
>>   As you can imagine live patients are not always available to inject 
>> for angios to determine if a
>> particular camera is suitable for visualizing the dye in the retina 
>> during alignment of the eye with the
>> exciter in situ.
>>   I have read that injecting beef  or chicken can somewhat emulate 
>> the this. I have even tried swabbing the
>> back of an artifical test eye....this seemed to work well but didnt 
>> produce the same results when tested on a
>> human in late stage angio. Obviously the dye is diluted in the blood 
>> and the density of the vessels all play a
>> role in reducing the excitement of the dye.
>>   Do you know of any convenient methods to emulate this?
>> Marc Gilels
>> Instruments for vision
>> 800-323-4382
>> www.eyeimg.com
>> 
>> 
>>      
>> <http://forum.purseblog.com/the-jewelry-box/diamond-florescence-what-does-it-really-mean-90844.html>
>> 
>> 
>>      
>> <http://forum.purseblog.com/the-jewelry-box/diamond-florescence-what-does-it-really-mean-90844.html>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Maio <markmaio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: Optimal <optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 7:57 pm
>> Subject: [optimal] iPhone 4/Seattle OPS meeting
>> 
>> If anyone is going to be at the OPS meeting in Seattle with an iPhone 
>> 4 I could use in an imaging test, please contact me off list.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -- 
>> Mark Maio
>> InVision, Inc.
>> 5445 Buckhollow Drive
>> Alpharetta, GA 30005
>> _markmaio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> _404-386-5676
>> 
>> Consultant in ophthalmic and biomedical imaging.
>> Member of Adobe's Biomedical Imaging Advisory Group
>> _
>> _My fine art photography is represented by Lumiere: 
>> _http://lumieregallery.net/wp/?p=254
>> _
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Joe Warnicki
> J-WAR Systems Inc.
> 700 Carla Drive
> Pittsburgh, PA
> warnickij@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ph 412-517-8792
> cell 412-327-6042
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Subject: [optimal] Spectralis Lens Cleaning
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 10:50:40 -0400
> From: "Tom Steele" <tsteele@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Everyone,
> 
> 
> What does everyone use for cleaning fingerprints & other stuff off the
> lens. I still have techs cleaning with Kleenex and Alcohol Prep Pads.
> Now I got these ugly marks on the lens which makes IR & RF images look
> like crap. There should be like a genetic coding for all ophthalmic
> techs that I can give to them once a year as an IM shot to prevent this.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> 
> 
> Tom Steele, CRA
> 
> 
> Midwest Eye Institute
> 
> 200 West 103rd Street
> 
> Indianapolis, Indiana 46290
> 
> 317.817.1018
> 
> tsteele@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 07:53:19 -0700
> Subject: [optimal] Re: Spectralis Lens Cleaning
> From: Jocelyn Gajeway <jocelyn.gajeway@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Hi Tom!
> For dust, we recommend a blower brush. Then a soft, microfiber lens cloth
> and hot breath. If the grease is really stubborn, a few drops of 99%
> isopropanol or ethanol and that same cloth should clean it. I've also used a
> cotton bud wrapped in a bit of loose cotton to make it softer in a pinkch,
> but that tends to be linty.
> 
> Do not use "lens cleaner" or any pre moistened wipes to avoid damaging the
> coatings
> 
> Best,
> Jocelyn
> 
> Jocelyn Gajeway
> Product Support Specialist
> Heidelberg Engineering
> 1800-931-2230 x 1104
> 
> On May 6, 2011 7:46 AM, "Tom Steele" <tsteele@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Everyone,
> 
> 
> 
> What does everyone use for cleaning fingerprints & other stuff off the lens.
> I still have techs cleaning with Kleenex and Alcohol Prep Pads. Now I got
> these ugly marks on the lens which makes IR & RF images look like crap.
> There should be like a genetic coding for all ophthalmic techs that I can
> give to them once a year as an IM shot to prevent this.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> 
> 
> Tom Steele,
> CRA
> 
> 
> Midwest Eye Institute
> 
> 200 West 103rd Street
> 
> Indianapolis, Indiana 46290
> 
> 317.817.1018
> 
> tsteele@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 11:28:56 -0400
> Subject: [optimal] Ext hard drives
> From: robert santora <rbsantora@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> To All
> It's time to get some external hard drives for the HRA2. Heidelberg
> recommended Io mega 2 TB fire wires. I tend to rely on Lacie. Any strong
> opinions on the comparisons or recommendations of another manufacturer?
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:12:08 -0700
> Subject: [optimal] Re: ICG and Metformin
> From: Randall Gannon <randygannon@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Our RN found this paper from "The Royal Australian and New Zealand College
> of Ophthalmologists"
> Fluorescein and Indocyanine Green Angiography Guidelines.
> #17 Indocyanine Green Angiography
> ...... ICG Andiography may theoretically precipitate lactic acidosis in
> patients taking the medication
> Metformin, and caution is advised in performing !CG angiography on patients
> taking this medication
> 
> Randall Gannon CRA
> Scripps Clinic
> La Jolla, CA
> 
> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Lydia Dimmer <lydiadimmer@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I think the chance of a reaction was pretty low to begin with....
>> 
>> Lydia Dimmer, COT, CRA, OCT-C
>> Eye Associates Northwest, PC
>> Seattle, WA
>> 206/342-6140
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> From: ESnodgrass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 14:29:06 -0700
>> 
>> Subject: [optimal] ICG and Metformin
>> 
>>   I just finished an ICG angiogram for a pt who takes Metformin and,
>> appropriately, took his last dose Sunday evening so we could proceed with
>> the ICG.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A „new‰ RN to Ophthalmology wanted to see literature on this subject, so
>> she researched the Stanford RX library, the literature that accompanies the
>> dye and found no contraindication with ICG and Metformin.  We phoned our
>> hospital pharmacy who reported that it is no longer necessary to stop
>> Metformin with IVICG.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Comments?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *Beth Snodgrass, CRA*
>> 
>> *Byers Eye Institute @ Stanford*
>> 
>> *2452 Watson Court *
>> 
>> *Palo Alto, California  94303*
>> 
>> *650-498-4262*
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: "Mitchell, Tina L SSG RES USAR" <tina.l.mitchell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 12:36:28 -0400
> Subject: [optimal] mail
> 
> please remove me from mailing list
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 11:39:45 -0500
> Subject: [optimal] Re: Ext hard drives
> From: John Horna <johnhorna@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> I've used an external 1 TB Iomega HDD at home for a couple of years without
> a problem.
> John
> 
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:28 AM, robert santora <rbsantora@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> To All
>> 
>> It's time to get some external hard drives for the HRA2. Heidelberg
>> recommended Io mega 2 TB fire wires. I tend to rely on Lacie. Any strong
>> opinions on the comparisons or recommendations of another manufacturer?
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 11:43:33 -0500
> Subject: [optimal] Re: Spectralis Lens Cleaning
> From: John Horna <johnhorna@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Or you can use canned air if you need more force to dislodge the dust
> particles.
> Your alcohol prep only contains 70% Isopropyl Alcohol and normally
> causes more problems than anything else and makes it harder to clean the
> lens.
> 
> John
> 
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Jocelyn Gajeway
> <jocelyn.gajeway@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> 
>> Hi Tom!
>> 
>> For dust, we recommend a blower brush. Then a soft, microfiber lens cloth
>> and hot breath. If the grease is really stubborn, a few drops of 99%
>> isopropanol or ethanol and that same cloth should clean it. I've also used a
>> cotton bud wrapped in a bit of loose cotton to make it softer in a pinkch,
>> but that tends to be linty.
>> 
>> Do not use "lens cleaner" or any pre moistened wipes to avoid damaging the
>> coatings
>> 
>> Best,
>> Jocelyn
>> 
>> Jocelyn Gajeway
>> Product Support Specialist
>> Heidelberg Engineering
>> 1800-931-2230 x 1104
>> 
>> On May 6, 2011 7:46 AM, "Tom Steele" <tsteele@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> Everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What does everyone use for cleaning fingerprints & other stuff off the
>> lens. I still have techs cleaning with Kleenex and Alcohol Prep Pads. Now I
>> got these ugly marks on the lens which makes IR & RF images look like crap.
>> There should be like a genetic coding for all ophthalmic techs that I can
>> give to them once a year as an IM shot to prevent this.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank You,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Tom Steele,
>> CRA
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Eye Institute
>> 
>> 200 West 103rd Street
>> 
>> Indianapolis, Indiana 46290
>> 
>> 317.817.1018
>> 
>> tsteele@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *  ** **CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:*
>> 
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>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Subject: [optimal] Re: Ext hard drives
> From: sandor ferenczy <sandorferenczy@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 12:52:25 -0400
> 
> frthere are only a couple manufacturers of drive mechanism manufacturers an 
> even less manufacturers of chipsets (the bit that adapts an internal SATA 
> drive to USB/FireWire/eSATA)
> 
> laCie, iomega, etc just make the pretty case.
> 
> as for recommendations, I would highly recommend you get something with RAID 
> - preferably RAID 5 - you want constant redundancy in case of failure. 
> 
> -sandor
> 
> On May 6, 2011, at 11:28 AM, robert santora <rbsantora@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> To All
>> 
>> It's time to get some external hard drives for the HRA2. Heidelberg 
>> recommended Io mega 2 TB fire wires. I tend to rely on Lacie. Any strong 
>> opinions on the comparisons or recommendations of another manufacturer?
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Subject: [optimal] Remove me
> From: andreacotait@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 17:08:20 +0000
> 
> Please remove me from mailing list
> andreacotait@xxxxxxxxxx
> Thanks
> Enviado pelo meu aparelho BlackBerry® da Vivo
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:47:21 -0400
> Subject: [optimal] Re: Ext hard drives
> From: robert santora <rbsantora@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Yes, Sandor  I agree with what you say about the manufacturing "shell game"
> . I am saving the RAID system for my server if? when ?I get one. Thanks
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:52 PM, sandor ferenczy
> <sandorferenczy@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> 
>> frthere are only a couple manufacturers of drive mechanism manufacturers an
>> even less manufacturers of chipsets (the bit that adapts an internal SATA
>> drive to USB/FireWire/eSATA)
>> 
>> laCie, iomega, etc just make the pretty case.
>> 
>> as for recommendations, I would highly recommend you get something with
>> RAID - preferably RAID 5 - you want constant redundancy in case of failure.
>> 
>> -sandor
>> 
>> On May 6, 2011, at 11:28 AM, robert santora <rbsantora@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> To All
>>> 
>>> It's time to get some external hard drives for the HRA2. Heidelberg
>> recommended Io mega 2 TB fire wires. I tend to rely on Lacie. Any strong
>> opinions on the comparisons or recommendations of another manufacturer?
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: "Michael R. Turano Jr." <turano@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [optimal] Re: Ext hard drives
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:59:36 -0400
> 
> Robert you can pick up a FireWire raid inclosure pretty inexpensively. I 
> would look into it. 
> Michael R. Turano, Jr., CRA, OCT-C
> 
> Imaging Specialist
> 
> C 917.826.9506
> F 917.591.1841
> 
> turano@xxxxxxxxx
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 6, 2011, at 1:47 PM, robert santora <rbsantora@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, Sandor  I agree with what you say about the manufacturing "shell game" 
>> . I am saving the RAID system for my server if? when ?I get one. Thanks
>> 
>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:52 PM, sandor ferenczy <sandorferenczy@xxxxxxxxx> 
>> wrote:
>> frthere are only a couple manufacturers of drive mechanism manufacturers an 
>> even less manufacturers of chipsets (the bit that adapts an internal SATA 
>> drive to USB/FireWire/eSATA)
>> 
>> laCie, iomega, etc just make the pretty case.
>> 
>> as for recommendations, I would highly recommend you get something with RAID 
>> - preferably RAID 5 - you want constant redundancy in case of failure.
>> 
>> -sandor
>> 
>> On May 6, 2011, at 11:28 AM, robert santora <rbsantora@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> To All
>>> 
>>> It's time to get some external hard drives for the HRA2. Heidelberg 
>>> recommended Io mega 2 TB fire wires. I tend to rely on Lacie. Any strong 
>>> opinions on the comparisons or recommendations of another manufacturer?
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Subject: [optimal] Re: Spectralis Lens Cleaning
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:01:15 -0500
> From: "Peterson John C" <JPeterson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> I avoid canned air because of the risk that some propellant ends up on
> the lens.
> 
> We use a large Giottos Rocket-Air bulb blower to dislodge loose
> particles. It works, and looks cool doing it, sporting ultra-spiffy tail
> fins!!
> Then the hot breath method with lens tissue...
> 
> I have some Opto Wipes precision lens cleaning tissues on
> order....especially made for coated high-precision optics. I'll report
> to the list once I've had a chance to use them. I spent two hours on
> Monday trying to clean the back surface of an FF4 lens with moderate
> success. Something must be done.
> 
> John
> 
> PS: anyone have a source for Kodak lens paper? It seems to have been
> discontinued from the usual sources. I'm not happy with what's being
> offered in replacement.
> 
> 
> ******** 
> John C. Peterson, BS, CRA 
> Director of Ophthalmic Photography Services 
> UW Health Eye Clinic 
> 2880 University Ave., Rm. 246 
> Madison, WI 53705 
> (608) 263-7163 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of John Horna
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 11:44 AM
> To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [optimal] Re: Spectralis Lens Cleaning
> 
> 
> Or you can use canned air if you need more force to dislodge the dust
> particles.
> 
> Your alcohol prep only contains 70% Isopropyl Alcohol and normally
> causes more problems than anything else and makes it harder to clean the
> lens.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Jocelyn Gajeway
> <jocelyn.gajeway@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
>       Hi Tom!
> 
>       For dust, we recommend a blower brush. Then a soft, microfiber
> lens cloth and hot breath. If the grease is really stubborn, a few drops
> of 99% isopropanol or ethanol and that same cloth should clean it. I've
> also used a cotton bud wrapped in a bit of loose cotton to make it
> softer in a pinkch, but that tends to be linty.
> 
>       Do not use "lens cleaner" or any pre moistened wipes to avoid
> damaging the coatings
> 
>       Best,
>       Jocelyn
> 
>       Jocelyn Gajeway
>       Product Support Specialist
>       Heidelberg Engineering
>       1800-931-2230 x 1104
> 
>       
> 
>               On May 6, 2011 7:46 AM, "Tom Steele"
> <tsteele@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>               
>               
> 
>               Everyone,
> 
>                
> 
>               What does everyone use for cleaning fingerprints & other
> stuff off the lens. I still have techs cleaning with Kleenex and Alcohol
> Prep Pads. Now I got these ugly marks on the lens which makes IR & RF
> images look like crap. There should be like a genetic coding for all
> ophthalmic techs that I can give to them once a year as an IM shot to
> prevent this.
> 
>                
> 
>               Thank You,
> 
>                
> 
>               Tom Steele, CRA
> 
> 
>               Midwest Eye Institute
> 
>               200 West 103rd Street
> 
>               Indianapolis, Indiana 46290
> 
>               317.817.1018
> 
>               tsteele@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>                
> 
>                
> 
>                  CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:
> 
>                
> 
>               This message is intended only for the use of the
> individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain
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> 
>                
> 
>       
> 
>       
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 14:14:44 -0400
> Subject: [optimal] Re: Ext hard drives
> From: robert santora <rbsantora@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> OK Mike will investigate thanks
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Michael R. Turano Jr. <turano@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> 
>> Robert you can pick up a FireWire raid inclosure pretty inexpensively. I
>> would look into it.
>> 
>> Michael R. Turano, Jr., CRA, OCT-C
>> 
>> Imaging Specialist
>> 
>> C 917.826.9506
>> F 917.591.1841
>> 
>> turano@xxxxxxxxx
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 6, 2011, at 1:47 PM, robert santora <rbsantora@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>  Yes, Sandor  I agree with what you say about the manufacturing "shell
>> game" . I am saving the RAID system for my server if? when ?I get one.
>> Thanks
>> 
>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:52 PM, sandor ferenczy <sandorferenczy@xxxxxxxxx
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> frthere are only a couple manufacturers of drive mechanism manufacturers
>>> an even less manufacturers of chipsets (the bit that adapts an internal SATA
>>> drive to USB/FireWire/eSATA)
>>> 
>>> laCie, iomega, etc just make the pretty case.
>>> 
>>> as for recommendations, I would highly recommend you get something with
>>> RAID - preferably RAID 5 - you want constant redundancy in case of failure.
>>> 
>>> -sandor
>>> 
>>> On May 6, 2011, at 11:28 AM, robert santora <rbsantora@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> To All
>>>> 
>>>> It's time to get some external hard drives for the HRA2. Heidelberg
>>> recommended Io mega 2 TB fire wires. I tend to rely on Lacie. Any strong
>>> opinions on the comparisons or recommendations of another manufacturer?
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: "Snodgrass, Elizabeth" <ESnodgrass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 11:24:55 -0700
> Subject: [optimal] Re: ICG and Metformin
> 
> What is the date of the article?
> Beth Snodgrass, CRA
> Eye Institute @ Stanford
> 2452 Watson Court
> Palo Alto, California  94303
> 650-498-4262
> 
> From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Randall Gannon
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:12 AM
> To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [optimal] Re: ICG and Metformin
> 
> Our RN found this paper from "The Royal Australian and New Zealand College of 
> Ophthalmologists"
> Fluorescein and Indocyanine Green Angiography Guidelines.
> 
> #17 Indocyanine Green Angiography
> ...... ICG Andiography may theoretically precipitate lactic acidosis in 
> patients taking the medication
> Metformin, and caution is advised in performing !CG angiography on patients 
> taking this medication
> 
> Randall Gannon CRA
> Scripps Clinic
> La Jolla, CA
> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Lydia Dimmer 
> <lydiadimmer@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lydiadimmer@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
> I think the chance of a reaction was pretty low to begin with....
> Lydia Dimmer, COT, CRA, OCT-C
> Eye Associates Northwest, PC
> Seattle, WA
> 206/342-6140<tel:206%2F342-6140>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: ESnodgrass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ESnodgrass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 14:29:06 -0700
> 
> Subject: [optimal] ICG and Metformin
> 
> Error! Filename not specified.
> 
> I just finished an ICG angiogram for a pt who takes Metformin and, 
> appropriately, took his last dose Sunday evening so we could proceed with the 
> ICG.
> 
> 
> 
> A "new" RN to Ophthalmology wanted to see literature on this subject, so she 
> researched the Stanford RX library, the literature that accompanies the dye 
> and found no contraindication with ICG and Metformin.  We phoned our hospital 
> pharmacy who reported that it is no longer necessary to stop Metformin with 
> IVICG.
> 
> 
> 
> Comments?
> 
> 
> 
> Beth Snodgrass, CRA
> 
> Byers Eye Institute @ Stanford
> 
> 2452 Watson Court
> 
> Palo Alto, California  94303
> 
> 650-498-4262<tel:650-498-4262>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 11:50:58 -0700
> Subject: [optimal] Re: ICG and Metformin
> From: Randall Gannon <randygannon@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Updated July 2007
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Snodgrass, Elizabeth <
> ESnodgrass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> What is the date of the article?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *Beth Snodgrass, CRA*
>> 
>> *Eye Institute @ Stanford*
>> 
>> *2452 Watson Court *
>> 
>> *Palo Alto, California  94303*
>> 
>> *650-498-4262*
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:* optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> *On Behalf Of *Randall Gannon
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 06, 2011 9:12 AM
>> *To:* optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* [optimal] Re: ICG and Metformin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Our RN found this paper from "The Royal Australian and New Zealand College
>> of Ophthalmologists"
>> 
>> Fluorescein and Indocyanine Green Angiography Guidelines.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> #17 Indocyanine Green Angiography
>> 
>> ...... ICG Andiography may theoretically precipitate lactic acidosis in
>> patients taking the medication
>> 
>> Metformin, and caution is advised in performing !CG angiography on patients
>> taking this medication
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Randall Gannon CRA
>> 
>> Scripps Clinic
>> 
>> La Jolla, CA
>> 
>> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Lydia Dimmer <lydiadimmer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I think the chance of a reaction was pretty low to begin with....
>> 
>> Lydia Dimmer, COT, CRA, OCT-C
>> Eye Associates Northwest, PC
>> Seattle, WA
>> 206/342-6140
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> From: ESnodgrass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 14:29:06 -0700
>> 
>> 
>> Subject: [optimal] ICG and Metformin
>> 
>> *Error! Filename not specified.*
>> 
>>  I just finished an ICG angiogram for a pt who takes Metformin and,
>> appropriately, took his last dose Sunday evening so we could proceed with
>> the ICG.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A „new‰ RN to Ophthalmology wanted to see literature on this subject, so
>> she researched the Stanford RX library, the literature that accompanies the
>> dye and found no contraindication with ICG and Metformin.  We phoned our
>> hospital pharmacy who reported that it is no longer necessary to stop
>> Metformin with IVICG.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Comments?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *Beth Snodgrass, CRA*
>> 
>> *Byers Eye Institute @ Stanford*
>> 
>> *2452 Watson Court *
>> 
>> *Palo Alto, California  94303*
>> 
>> *650-498-4262*
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: George Cire <george_cire@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [optimal] Remove Me
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 18:55:10 +0000
> 
> please remove me from list
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> Subject: [optimal] Please remove me
> From: Greg Flucker <gdfluker@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 16:51:21 -0400
> 
> Please remove me
> gdfluker@xxxxxxxxx
> 
> Sent from my iPod
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> Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 18:58:14 -0400
> Subject: [optimal] Re: Please remove me
> From: Jeff Jamison <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> you have been removed
> Sent from my Samsung Captivate(tm) on AT&T 858-736-1359
> 
> Greg Flucker <gdfluker@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> Please remove me
>> gdfluker@xxxxxxxxx
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>> Sent from my iPod
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> 
> From: Greg Flucker <gdfluker@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [optimal] Fwd: Please remove me
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 20:07:40 -0400
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Greg Flucker <gdfluker@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: 6 May, 2011 4:51:21 PM EDT
>> To: "optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [optimal] Please remove me
>> Reply-To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> 
> 
>> Please remove me
>> gdfluker@xxxxxxxxx
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
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> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 17:28:36 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Nancy Dicken <nsdicken@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [optimal] remove
> 
> Please remove my name from the Optimal list.
>  
> Thank you,
> Nancy Dicken
> 
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> 
> From: "Ben Serar" <serarphoto@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [optimal] Re: remove
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 18:06:43 -0700
> 
> ...............a Dicken and a Flucker......is this a joke ?????????
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Nancy Dicken 
>  To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>  Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:28 PM
>  Subject: [optimal] remove
> 
>        Please remove my name from the Optimal list.
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>        Thank you,
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> From: "Aletter, Karin" <AletterKarin@xxxxxxxx>
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 20:13:39 -0500
> Subject: [optimal] Re: remove
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> From: Orly Catz <ocphoto@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [optimal] Re: remove
> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 08:07:43 +0300
> 
> Please remove my name from the optimal list as well. Thank you
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 7, 2011, at 4:06 AM, Ben Serar <serarphoto@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> ...............a Dicken and a Flucker......is this a joke ?????????
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Nancy Dicken
>> To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:28 PM
>> Subject: [optimal] remove
>> 
>> Please remove my name from the Optimal list.
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>> Thank you,
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